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  • Why does a commercial sailing event need a guard ship, provided at public expense? James Joyce was a dilettante who wrote unreadable books and kept his family in a state of constant poverty. hardly a recommendation for immortality as the name of a ship.

    regards
    GttC

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    • Originally posted by GoneToTheCanner View Post
      Why does a commercial sailing event need a guard ship, provided at public expense? James Joyce was a dilettante who wrote unreadable books and kept his family in a state of constant poverty. hardly a recommendation for immortality as the name of a ship.

      regards
      GttC
      In case of a sudden storm for example

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      • Originally posted by GoneToTheCanner View Post
        Why does a commercial sailing event need a guard ship, provided at public expense? James Joyce was a dilettante who wrote unreadable books and kept his family in a state of constant poverty. hardly a recommendation for immortality as the name of a ship.

        regards
        GttC
        For the same reason that military aircraft take part in civilian airshows .
        Don't spit in my Bouillabaisse .

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        • Originally posted by danno View Post
          Not all that unique,RN has used female classic names such as Phoebe,Hermione,Penelope etc.Always a risk of current system being hijacked by failing politicians to call units after wags etc,maybe a new format is now timely.
          Those are all classic Greek names. That is a different tradition again...expropriation of the history of others!

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          • Originally posted by GoneToTheCanner View Post
            Why does a commercial sailing event need a guard ship, provided at public expense? James Joyce was a dilettante who wrote unreadable books and kept his family in a state of constant poverty. hardly a recommendation for immortality as the name of a ship.

            regards
            GttC
            It gets badly needed exposure for the navy. The navy does most of its work over the western horizon and needs all the publicity it can get. In order to let the taxpayer see our navy it has to be at events like this.

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            • Originally posted by Flintstone View Post
              It gets badly needed exposure for the navy. The navy does most of its work over the western horizon and needs all the publicity it can get. In order to let the taxpayer see our navy it has to be at events like this.
              Indeed, the same reason the Garda Boat and the customs cutter spent the week in Galway during events.


              Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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              • There's a difference between needing the ear of a sympathetic Dept of Finance and touting for attention at a commercial event. If any of the State services feel the need to tout for attention in public, then they are already in trouble. I'd be impressed if the sponsors paid for the NS and the other State services to attend................................. The NS is already a well-exposed and , as far as I can tell, publicly well-regarded organisation...... Customs cutter attending? Why? I doubt if they actually checked anyone on the day....As for military aircraft attending airshows, sometimes it's valid as public flag-waving but other times, it's just attention-whoring and unjustifiable jollies..........I'm glad Galway made a ton of money and everyone had a good time but I hope it hasn't squandered a chunk of an already-tight Naval budget.

                regards
                GttC

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                • but I hope it hasn't squandered a chunk of an already-tight Naval budget.

                  Ship sitting at anchor doesn't cost fuel, but eats into patrol days. Obviously someone thinks theres a balance there.
                  Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe

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                  • Patrol days have been cut and I'd assume the NS still has targets.

                    A guard ship could have been for safety or security reasons.

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                    • Why not re-use the names we've already issued!!!??? If Emer Eithne etc are replaced, just re-use the name!? Same as they do in UK and US?
                      "He is an enemy officer taken in battle and entitled to fair treatment."
                      "No, sir. He's a sergeant, and they don't deserve no respect at all, sir. I should know. They're cunning and artful, if they're any good. I wouldn't mind if he was an officer, sir. But sergeants are clever."

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                      • Originally posted by GoneToTheCanner View Post
                        There's a difference between needing the ear of a sympathetic Dept of Finance and touting for attention at a commercial event. If any of the State services feel the need to tout for attention in public, then they are already in trouble. I'd be impressed if the sponsors paid for the NS and the other State services to attend................................. The NS is already a well-exposed and , as far as I can tell, publicly well-regarded organisation...... Customs cutter attending? Why? I doubt if they actually checked anyone on the day....As for military aircraft attending airshows, sometimes it's valid as public flag-waving but other times, it's just attention-whoring and unjustifiable jollies..........I'm glad Galway made a ton of money and everyone had a good time but I hope it hasn't squandered a chunk of an already-tight Naval budget.

                        regards
                        GttC
                        Forgot to mention the value for crew morale of a few hours in Galway

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                        • Originally posted by GoneToTheCanner View Post
                          Why does a commercial sailing event need a guard ship, provided at public expense? James Joyce was a dilettante who wrote unreadable books and kept his family in a state of constant poverty. hardly a recommendation for immortality as the name of a ship.

                          regards
                          GttC
                          What other countries provided guard ships to the racers as they sailed the race.According to ais the Aisling followed the racers from France to the SW coast and the Niamh was anchored in Galway Bay awaiting the flotilla.3 CG units met the flotilla just off the Aran Isles. The NS have prev deployed units to escort the Tall Ships so nothing new this time.

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                          • Originally posted by danno View Post
                            What other countries provided guard ships to the racers as they sailed the race.According to ais the Aisling followed the racers from France to the SW coast and the Niamh was anchored in Galway Bay awaiting the flotilla.3 CG units met the flotilla just off the Aran Isles. The NS have prev deployed units to escort the Tall Ships so nothing new this time.
                            Cannot answer for the Volvo but other navies have provided guardships for the Tallships. It's another tradition. Please let's not tear it down.

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                            • Don't remember Fastnet in 1979??

                              Around 12% of the yacht sunk or disabled and 15 dead

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                              • By that logic, every yacht race should have a State guard ship standing by.
                                regards
                                GttC

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