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    4th Battalion Closing

    Hi all sorry if this topic has been discussed before but I couldn't seem to find it and I just want a few answers. Does anyone know what is happening to all the soldiers in the 4th Battalion in Cork? Will they all definitely have to move to Limerick and Killkenny?

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    The answer to your question will depend on who is asking?Why are you concerned?
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    Interesting... I posted a reply to this query and it seems to have vanished... anyone know why ???
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    Yes. The question is do you?

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    I have a feeling the words "Op Sec" come into the reason why it disappeared.
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    If it were me, and I needed to know the answer, I'd start with my unit chain of command, not an anonomous internet bulletin board.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bravo20 View Post
    Yes. The question is do you?
    I would've if a mod had sent me a PM telling me.... I didn't see anything especially earth shattering with what I put down....
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    I dont see how answering this question compromises OPSEC. In fact i'm pretty sure it was published in Connect/An Cosantoir and some other publications.

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    I think with the size of the Army there are still to many barracks in the 26 counties I know soldiers and their families are settled in these areas where these barracks are I think if the DOD want to close barracks
    they should build good modern accommodation for soldiers families or maybe build new barracks with good living quarters and make sure there well kept .
    That,s one scinarieo do we need an Army at all a good Naval Service and much stronger Air Corps over 8000 in the Army doing what .

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    Quote Originally Posted by billya View Post
    I think with the size of the Army there are still to many barracks in the 26 counties I know soldiers and their families are settled in these areas where these barracks are I think if the DOD want to close barracks
    they should build good modern accommodation for soldiers families or maybe build new barracks with good living quarters and make sure there well kept
    That,s one scinarieo do we need an Army at all a good Naval Service and much stronger Air Corps over 8000 in the Army doing what .
    Logic in that suggestion in the current climate ? When military posts are being CLOSED ?
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    who will protect us from thje invasions of the....................on our southern flank if the 4th Batt close . Anyway its too late they are already living in the country

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    1 Cav and the Navy of course. Have you not seen the most recent video clip?


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    What was once 4Bn is now B Coy 12 Bn since friday last.133 Ex 4Bn troops gone to the best Bn in the army.Remainder gone to 1AR and Collins Bks CS and CSS units.
    Fair play to the Cork boys and their families for getting what they wanted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by apod View Post
    What was once 4Bn is now B Coy 12 Bn since friday last.
    Are they staying in Cork or are they going to be forced to move to Limerick?

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    There was an edition of Connect that had the location of the unit as far as I can see only 1 major unit is based over 2+ locations (gormo).

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeV View Post
    There was an edition of Connect that had the location of the unit as far as I can see only 1 major unit is based over 2+ locations (gormo).
    The Engineers, Ordnance and S + T Groups of the new 2 Bde will be split between the Brugha and Athlone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apod View Post
    What was once 4Bn is now B Coy 12 Bn since friday last.133 Ex 4Bn troops gone to the best Bn in the army.Remainder gone to 1AR and Collins Bks CS and CSS units.
    Fair play to the Cork boys and their families for getting what they wanted.
    Their "green flu" stunt during the recent GOC's inspection wasn't very classy. Of course any Corkman who thinks he might have to move an inch away from Cork would consider mutiny a minor matter.

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    Unfortunately, over the years, the 4th Bn became contaminated with people from outside the county. Mostly troublemakers.

    On a serious note, many former 4th Bn members lived in county towns such as Kanturk, Mallow and Charleville. A move to Limerick is not a huge step. Indeed a former BSM of the 12th was commuting from Mallow.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sluggie View Post
    Their "green flu" stunt during the recent GOC's inspection wasn't very classy. Of course any Corkman who thinks he might have to move an inch away from Cork would consider mutiny a minor matter.
    Whats this about ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhodes View Post
    The Engineers, Ordnance and S + T Groups of the new 2 Bde will be split between the Brugha and Athlone.
    A major unit is a battalion sized unit (they are coy plus/minus).

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    New Engineer formation is "Group" is that Batallion Plus or minus?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldie fish View Post
    New Engineer formation is "Group" is that Batallion Plus or minus?
    Company plus.

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    B coy is staying in Cork.For the moment.
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    "Let us be clear about three facts:First of all.All battles and all wars are won in the end by the Infantryman.Secondly the Infantryman bears the brunt of the fighting,his casualties are heavier and he suffers greater extremes of fatigue and discomfort than the other arms.Thirdly,the art of the Infantryman is less stereotyped and harder to acquire than that of any other arm".
    -- Field Marshall Earl Wavell.1948

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    Are promotions happening or are the powers that be reorganizing first and then see what is there?
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    Reorg and promotions being done simultaneously.No promotions to CQ until Cadre staff is sorted out by the VFM implementation plan.
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    "Let us be clear about three facts:First of all.All battles and all wars are won in the end by the Infantryman.Secondly the Infantryman bears the brunt of the fighting,his casualties are heavier and he suffers greater extremes of fatigue and discomfort than the other arms.Thirdly,the art of the Infantryman is less stereotyped and harder to acquire than that of any other arm".
    -- Field Marshall Earl Wavell.1948

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