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    c25 by Irish Defence Forces, on Flickr

    "The Cadet Jevens Memorial Trophy" - Awarded to the student who achieved the highest standard in the ground school syllabus is awarded by the Family of David Jevins.


    c24 by Irish Defence Forces, on Flickr
    Cadet Paul McDermott receives "The Commandant D.K Johnston Cup " for the student who achieved the highest standard in flying from DCOS Ops Major General Ralph James.


    Only 3 cadets commissioned.

    Air Corps Commissioning by Irish Defence Forces, on Flickr
    (Left to Right) Cadet David Fallon, Cadet Paul McDermot, Cadet Neil Dunne swearing Oath of allegiance in which they will swear to be "faithful to Ireland and loyal to the Constitution"


    Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

  • #2
    There was only three in their class.

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    • #3


      Short clip. Same old muzak.
      Last edited by Goldie fish; 16 December 2012, 12:57.


      Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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      • #4
        The band must be playing Silent Night .
        Don't spit in my Bouillabaisse .

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        • #5
          Oops. Dunno how that happened. meant to post the other clip on their playlist, of the commissioning. Will try again.


          Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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          • #6
            Three is pointless, really.Scarcely attritional replacements to cover retirements. Still, best of luck to them.

            regards
            GttC

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            • #7
              7xPC-9 , 3 Cadets. Mind boggling.

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              • #8
                Do we know how many started?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by DeV View Post
                  Do we know how many started?
                  As i said earlier in the thread, three. Three started and finished. The decision on numbers came down to the minister. Don't forget they were recruited during the middle of a recruitment embargo and that for the previous few years there hadn't been an aircorps class.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Jetjock View Post
                    7xPC-9 , 3 Cadets. Mind boggling.

                    In this age and era of VFM/closures/standowns etc the cost of maintaining the training apparatus for the AC must be horrendus for a class of 3.Makes the ponies look worthwhile.

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                    • #11
                      Yes, but just because they had a class of three cadets doesn't mean that future classes will all be of the same size, though with the reoorg of the DF the days of 50 strong classes that were a feature of the early and mid noughties (including air corps) in the military college are long gone.

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                      • #12
                        Raytheon offered to cover the ACs entire FH per year requirement with 4 Texan II aircraft. Considering the fleet averages about 1600hrs PA 7/8 certainly seemed a massive overkill (at €8m a pop plus ongoing mx). Congrats to the 3 cadets / officers, I have no doubt they will enjoy their time in the Corps.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by northie View Post
                          Yes, but just because they had a class of three cadets doesn't mean that future classes will all be of the same size, though with the reoorg of the DF the days of 50 strong classes that were a feature of the early and mid noughties (including air corps) in the military college are long gone.
                          Especially considering there are too many lieutenants in the DF.

                          Originally posted by Tadpole View Post
                          Raytheon offered to cover the ACs entire FH per year requirement with 4 Texan II aircraft. Considering the fleet averages about 1600hrs PA 7/8 certainly seemed a massive overkill (at €8m a pop plus ongoing mx). Congrats to the 3 cadets / officers, I have no doubt they will enjoy their time in the Corps.
                          Don't forget they are multi-role (eg flying CAP).

                          Normally classes are around 5 or so.

                          Remember being Ireland you may need all the cadets in the air at the same time due to good weather

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                          • #14
                            In the past even thought the Air Corps had 12 Marchettis they had to lease 3 more know as the "White Marchettis" to fill there requirements.

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                            • #15
                              In the past even thought the Air Corps had 12 Marchettis they had to lease 3 more know as the "White Marchettis" to fill there requirements.
                              The 'requirement' for additional aircraft had nothing to do with the flying utilisation which was in fact very low. It was more to do with ancient work practices that prevailed at the time. These included Mon-Fri 0900-1630 mx (with about 2hrs of breaks), inflexibility of who could sign off what and inability to handover work from one supervisor to another even if he was on holiday!!!. This left BFTS with low numbers of aircraft to use and even left aircraft on IRANs for 18 months at a time.

                              The PC9s are the same. No matter what they are doing, they are only doing 1600hrs a year as a fleet. With a fleet of 4 this would leave only 400hrs per aircraft per year plus 4 of these modern technology machines maintained to proper work regimes should be producing 3 aircraft per day minimum. 3 aircraft flying 3-4 sorties per day will give 45-60 flights per week as a minimum, more then enough for any course.

                              As for the weather argument, come on, the Don has never had it so good. Turbine trainers with high rates of climb and high operational ceilings, exceptional IFR capability and an ILS. Weather should be much less restrictive then it ever was. Besides even if 8 aircraft were sitting on the ramp with 8 students how many instructors could the school field at any given time? 3,4?

                              8 machines was an unnecessary purchase for the utilisation the AC required but hey, they have them now and good luck to them. I just wouldn't like to have to defend a 200hrs per year per aircraft utilisation if a VFM review was carried out.

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