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Originally posted by DeV View PostSince the various electronic aids (for the NS FSC) on FVs were introduced airborne patrols aren't required as often.
Do you really believe that?
Who Tasks the CASA on a daily basis?
Five patrols a week out of two aircraft would seam low even to a casual observer..
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Originally posted by Charlie252 View PostSeams i little on the low side for two mission dedicated aircraft.
Like the helicopter fleet, they're being dragged this way and that.
253 seems to be the busiest of the pair.
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Originally posted by Pure Hover View PostAnything positive to contribute perhaps...?
I asked a simple question and received a response, do you think the number of patrols seams reasonable for two aircraft??
I would hate to think the CASA's are being used for twin-engine training, that would be a total misuse of very expensive role specific aircraft!!
I don't think any of the other missions, mentioned as affecting availability, should actually reduce the number of patrols.
Have you anything to contribute??
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Given that the CASAs cannot actually board any FVs,other than verifications for the VMS system what else are the desired/actual outputs of the MPs. Are these being rendered obsolete by the recent change in policy of the SFPA to attend and check landings of catch.
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If anything, the MPA have become more useful with the arrival of VMS. At a glance they can see those who have their transponder switched off while fishing, and can close in to photograph and identify the offender, allowing the details to be passed on to the NS for further investigation.
Similarly, when monitoring the movements of suspected smugglers, the MPA can provide an almost real time eyes on for those commanding a potential detection operation.
Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.
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Originally posted by Charlie252 View PostI would hate to think the CASA's are being used for twin-engine training, that would be a total misuse of very expensive role specific aircraft!!
I don't think any of the other missions, mentioned as affecting availability, should actually reduce the number of patrols.
Apart from the other roles, the other significant variable is the a/c availability, again no direct knowledge, but they've got a quite advanced sensor suite in a nearly 20 year old airframe and I think there were a couple of Pan-Pan engine outs over the last few years.
Point I'm making is - if the patrol figure is low, then there are probably good reasons - and crewing does not appear to be one of them, the old 9-5 Monday to Friday AC, does not tally with what I'm seeing.
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Originally posted by Charlie252 View PostSo only positive comments are allowed?
I asked a simple question and received a response, do you think the number of patrols seams reasonable for two aircraft??
I would hate to think the CASA's are being used for twin-engine training, that would be a total misuse of very expensive role specific aircraft!!
I don't think any of the other missions, mentioned as affecting availability, should actually reduce the number of patrols.
Have you anything to contribute??
Shock horror if it's being used for twin-eng training - now why would that be a "total misuse" of an aircraft. Most militaries (and airlines) do exactly the same.
Maybe the fishermen are taking August off too!Last edited by Pure Hover; 7 August 2013, 22:43.
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Originally posted by Goldie fish View PostIf anything, the MPA have become more useful with the arrival of VMS. At a glance they can see those who have their transponder switched off while fishing, and can close in to photograph and identify the offender, allowing the details to be passed on to the NS for further investigation.
Similarly, when monitoring the movements of suspected smugglers, the MPA can provide an almost real time eyes on for those commanding a potential detection operation.
They're a great asset for naval intelligence.
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