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    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    Patronizing. stirring it, taking the piss .... hows' the chip doing?
    ? as an Irishman and ex member of ONH myself, how about my genuine appreciation in praising the British Forces Broadcasting Service for including the Irish out of over 20 other nations involved in the mission in their media report.

    although i haven't seen an Irish media report give the British in Mali much airtime if that is what you are referring to.

    so no chips here mate, sounds like you need some ketchup to sweeten yours though, unless it is an inferiority complex I detect perhaps?

    let's get back on topic.

    as ropebag referred to on another thread - what both the British and Irish are doing in Mali may set the stage for a similar model mission in CAR, if the UN call for it, although I feel there is a lot more to be done there before we reach that stage.
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    You mean like EUTM Somalia

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    Clip summary:

    British soldiers: It's not A-Stan, but it'll have to do
    Irish Officer: The British are great
    French Officer: The British are great.
    Female "Reporter": It's not A-Stan, but it'll have to do, and everyone else thinks we are great.

    If that isn't patronising I don't know what is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldie fish View Post
    Clip summary:

    British soldiers: It's not A-Stan, but it'll have to do
    Irish Officer: The British are great
    French Officer: The British are great.
    Female "Reporter": It's not A-Stan, but it'll have to do, and everyone else thinks we are great.

    If that isn't patronising I don't know what is.
    You say that as if a Defence Forces video would be any different.
    "It is a general popular error to imagine that loudest complainers for the public to be the most anxious for it's welfare" Edmund Burke

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    That's why DF videos rarely include furriners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldie fish View Post
    Clip summary:

    British soldiers: It's not A-Stan, but it'll have to do
    Irish Officer: The British are great
    French Officer: The British are great.
    Female "Reporter": It's not A-Stan, but it'll have to do, and everyone else thinks we are great.

    If that isn't patronising I don't know what is.
    would you rather British media didn't give ONH in Mali any airtime?

    or do you just dislike the positive comments made by Irish and French officers about their British colleagues?

    it's a shame such teamwork, respect and appreciation which these soldiers from different nations have developed is being criticised.

    i am happy to see input from soldiers of all nations in these missions, and it clear the British and Irish in particular are working well together in Mali and long may it continue here (renewed mandate in 2014 hopefully), and elsewhere (CAR for example).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldie fish View Post
    Clip summary:

    British soldiers: It's not A-Stan, but it'll have to do
    Irish Officer: The British are great
    French Officer: The British are great.
    Female "Reporter": It's not A-Stan, but it'll have to do, and everyone else thinks we are great.

    If that isn't patronising I don't know what is.
    Add to the summary from what the Irish Lt has to say on what we bring to the party, "Sure we are great crack"

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    I see Goldie's point. I too sensed an undercurrent of "Awck well, sure it'll do" and that somehow babysitting some Malian soldiers was somehow beneath the British Army. My criticism would be more of the reporting style of BFBS in this situation rather than the British Army itself. But then again they are the British forces broadcasting service so there will always be a British slant to their reporting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mugs View Post
    I see Goldie's point. I too sensed an undercurrent of "Awck well, sure it'll do" and that somehow babysitting some Malian soldiers was somehow beneath the British Army. My criticism would be more of the reporting style of BFBS in this situation rather than the British Army itself. But then again they are the British forces broadcasting service so there will always be a British slant to their reporting.
    Could be just macho talk for other Regiments consumption.
    What they may really be thinking is-
    "Thank F%$k this not Afghanistan landed on me feet ear by gum. should be all over by the time we get back"

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    I think all the people bleating on about the BFBS coverage of the Irish lads serving as part of a BRITISH unit should STFU!!
    Our own press office and coverage of OUR OWN troops has been virtually non existent!All the video or news footage of the Irish in Mali has come from U.K sources.Sources that didn't have to interview our lads OR picture them.But they did.A bit of gratitude would be better then the constant whingeing and bitching and the massive chips on some peoples shoulders.So what if the Irish officer kissed a little B.A arse.Its called being diplomatic!!You don't slag off the people you work with and under on their own TV station FFS especially when you are still working with them!!
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    [Taken here from the Cambrian Patrol thread to keep that on topic]

    Quote Originally Posted by SwiftandSure View Post
    Once the big deployments are done and everyone is home, can you see the Reserve taking as big of a role in these small training deployments? I would have thought these will be the preserve of the Regs? Unless it needs specialist input like Field Hospital staff, Comms specialists etc?
    apparently yes - Future Force 2020's vision sees Reserve Forces taking a greater part in such overseas deployments as highlighted here:

    Quote Originally Posted by Future Force 2020 White Paper
    The range of tasks Reserve Forces will be required to undertake in future are summarised in the table below.

    • Short term operations such as the evacuation of UK citizens from Lebanon in 2006 and the 2011 Libya operation.
    • Longer term stabilisation operations such as in the Balkans, UN missions, Iraq and Afghanistan.
    • Standing commitments abroad such as the Cyprus garrison and the defence of the Falkland Islands.
    • Deployments overseas aimed at Defence engagement, conflict prevention, security sector reform and capability building in priority countries, such as the British Peace Support mission in East Africa and the EU operation in Mali.
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    [QUOTE=apod;405368]I think all the people bleating on about the BFBS coverage of the Irish lads serving as part of a BRITISH unit should STFU!!
    I tend to agree wth APOD on this one but would not ask anyone to STFU as he puts it. Its a great opportunity for the DF to gain experience and work work with other armies and they work under an EU "neutral " flag, so to speak. The BA / French with their op and training experience are second to none and it can only be a win win for the Irish . Just stay clear of their politics.
    . Its also a great opp to lead African troops in the field and god only knows what opportunities it may open up for further work in places like CAR, DRC . etc. m

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    UN peacekeepers die in Mali blast

    http://www.independent.ie/world-news...-29838428.html

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    Five Injured as U.N. Vehicle in Mali Hits Landmine
    by Naharnet Newsdesk 2 hours ago.
    Five members of the U.N. mission in Mali were injured Monday when their vehicle ran over a landmine planted in the northeastern rebel bastion of Kidal, the stabilization mission said.
    "This (Monday) morning a MINUSMA (U.N. stabilization mission in Mali) vehicle ran over a mine" 30 kilometers (20 miles) from Kidal, the statement sent via Twitter said.
    "Five blue helmets were slightly injured," it added, giving no more details.

    Read more

    http://www.naharnet.com/stories/en/1...-hits-landmine

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    British Riflemen from 1RIFLES and Irish Soldiers from a variety of units with Mali Army soldiers today before the England v Ireland 6 Nations Rugby:

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    A Poc Fada competition in Mali.
    Results:-
    1st: France
    2nd: Mali
    3rd: Sweden

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    EUTM mandate has been extended to May 2016

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    pics of some Riflemen from 1RIFLES training soldiers in Mali recently:







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    Nice pics RGJ. Any news on the training group after the security fiasco and killings at the weekend. Not too good with Mali geography and some of the reports are lacking in detailed information.
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    Irish troops with EUTM Mali voting in Koulikro, Mali.


    Commandant Michael Nestor, from Laois, who is responsible to the administration of the postal votes in Mali opens the courier’s envelope containing the votes.


    Sgt Will Lawler (Cadet School) foreground and Cpl Jeff Meehan (27th Battalion, Dundalk) background contemplate their choices.


    Sgt Daniel Smyth of Cadet School.


    Sgt Gerry Duff from Dublin casts his vote.

    http://www.thejournal.ie/defence-for...79912-May2014/
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    Cousin in the picture there...hope they didn't ask him for a quote
    Don't tell them Pike

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhodes View Post

    Sgt Daniel Smyth of Cadet School.
    Hands down the best NCO I've come across since joining the DF.

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    You haven't met many so!!
    Some brilliant ones out there around the country.I could name 5-10 just off the top of my head!!(Not including myself of course.Too modest)
    "Let us be clear about three facts:First of all.All battles and all wars are won in the end by the Infantryman.Secondly the Infantryman bears the brunt of the fighting,his casualties are heavier and he suffers greater extremes of fatigue and discomfort than the other arms.Thirdly,the art of the Infantryman is less stereotyped and harder to acquire than that of any other arm".
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    the guilty know who they are, stay roughly on topic, please!
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