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  • #91
    Originally posted by hptmurphy View Post
    Should the not be donated as part of our overseas aid package to some emerging nation as opposed to trying to generate cash for them which will be sucked into the coffers of state?.
    In fairness, they have given a good return on investment but if we get a few euros for them it will help pay for their replacements.

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    • #92
      Hard one to call,emerging nations that have a viable NS up and running have moved past relicts,those with little or no NS may not thank you for inflicting the P21s on them and could well strangle the NS concerned .Is it the case that the Mauritius PV80 is laid up in disrepair.
      Bangladesh operated the Island Class and Castle Class PVs after the brits offloaded them, same vintage as some of ours.

      In fairness, they have given a good return on investment but if we get a few euros for them it will help pay for their replacements.
      Sold as seen, any major work would make them uneconomical to sell.They have paid for themselves 100 times over in Irish Service and owe the State nothing, and cash amount would only be a token.

      Again to clean them up for scrapping would exceed their value.

      Bit of a quandry all round if they fail to sell.
      Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe

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      • #93
        Do we owe our masters in the E.U. a percentage of the sale , did they help with the original funding ?
        Don't spit in my Bouillabaisse .

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        • #94
          It was a Grant, not a loan.


          Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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          • #95
            There was a scoping study published jointly by the NS and some researchers asserting a national maritime museam at HBL to include ships/craft alongside.Probabaly just a pipedream due to lack of dosh.

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            • #96
              It was one of the proposals put forward for use of the Former ISPAT site following cleanup. However cleanup may take longer than was originally planned, now they have to rebuild the bridge.


              Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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              • #97
                Cork County Council has been urged to acquire, as a potential floating museum or restaurant, one of two Irish Naval Service ships due to be decommissioned.


                Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                • #98
                  L.É. EMER set sail on her final operational maritime defence patrol this morning after a remarkable 35 years service.
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                  • #99
                    Ship mentioned in the article on the north wall in Dublin. Had to have it engins removed/deactivated in order to get a bar licence also being run now by NAMA.

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                    • Back to a 7 vessel NS shortly

                      With the plans how about at Spike?

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                      • Maybe Cork CO CO as fire authority,if not done already,might better serve its firemen by getting a rib for river rescue rather than using swimmers.

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                        • “If the council was to acquire the naval vessel, it could be used for that as well as a floating museum, just like HMS Belfast which is anchored in The Thames in London.”

                          Reality cheack please.

                          I would guarantee should either of the vessles be sold into Irish interests hands as anything other than working ships they will be environmental hazards within 5 years and hulks within 10.

                          Waterford Corporation in particular left the last working steam dredger, The Port Láirge' in the world be beached on a backwater in south Co. Wexford and left to rot to this day.

                          When some one mentions tourism every one see the short term gain in the the first season, tourist attractions such as the Dunbrody, Jeanie Johnston etc are expensive to maintain and run effectively. If it couldn't be done in the UK with HMS Plymouth and the collection built around that ,its not going to work and will eventyally cost to more to get rid of that it cost to build.

                          Very few care about the preservation of a FP vessel even one that that wasn't the original of the soecies. If someone has a genuine interest in keeping them as working ships fine , but please don't have them tied up as hazrds along side some backwater as the rust gets out of hand and the paint has peeled.
                          Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe

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                          • Re HMS Plymouth, did anyone else see that its former partner at Birkenhead, HMS Onyx, is headed for the Breakers yard, as no owner could be found willing to put in the work that was required.


                            Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                            • New life as luxury liner or research ship awaits navy's oldest vessel

                              THE Naval Service's oldest vessel will end 35 years of proud service next month and be auctioned off for conversion to a luxury cruise ship or research vessel.

                              LE Emer, which was commissioned in 1978, is on her last patrol and will be taken out of service on September 20.

                              If a private sale cannot be agreed, the vessel will be sold by public auction before September 27.

                              She will be replaced by the first of two new €98m patrol vessels that are being completed at a shipyard in the south of England.

                              COLLISION

                              The vessels, due for delivery in 2014 and 2015, will be named after literary figures rather than being given famous Irish women's names, which has been the tradition.

                              The first new ship will be named LE Samuel Beckett and the second, due for delivery in 2015, will be LE James Joyce. They will replace LE Emer and LE Aoife.

                              LE Aoife is currently undergoing repairs after her hull was damaged last Sunday in a collision with a pontoon in Cork harbour during a Gathering event.

                              The collision was filmed by Scandinavian holidaymakers and has gone viral on the internet.

                              Naval engineers are examining the ship, but she is expected to remain in service for the next 12 months.

                              The incident has been blamed on a mechanical problem with the ship's steering control system.

                              Like the LE Emer, LE Aoife will also be sold.

                              Auctioneer Dominic Daly said there is traditionally very strong interest in such former military vessels as they are built to a very high specification and are meticulously maintained.

                              "We have had expressions of interest from Ireland, Europe, Turkey and Africa," he said.

                              Mr Daly sold the last Naval Service ship to be disposed of when LE Deirdre fetched €230,000 at auction in 2001.

                              She was converted into a luxury cruiser and now operates in the Mediterranean.

                              ADVANCED

                              The two new navy ships are updated versions of the LE Roisin and LE Niamh design and will be 12 metres longer at 90 metres.

                              The vessels, which cost €49m each, will be delivered from next January by Babcock Marine.

                              They will be vastly more advanced than the ships they replace and are capable of handling both drone aircraft and remote-controlled robotic subs.

                              The LE Samuel Beckett will be delivered in January but will then undergo three months of trials before being commissioned.

                              With a top speed of 23 knots, the new ships will be more than 30pc faster than the ageing vessels they are replacing.

                              By the time the two new ships are commissioned, six of Ireland's eight-strong fleet of naval ships will be more than 30 years old. The vessels are the first new ships commissioned for the Naval Service since the LE Roisin (1999) and LE Niamh (2001).
                              THE Naval Service's oldest vessel will end 35 years of proud service next month and be auctioned off for conversion to a luxury cruise ship or research vessel.

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                              • Cypress apparently are on the lookout for PVs.

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