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    • Interesting and not too far fetched plans.
      For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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      • Originally posted by na grohmití View Post
        http://www.sabdes.com/conversion-52m...n8lhb9r9clstwc

        Interesting and not too far fetched plans.
        Been here before with Deirdre and look at how that finished....
        Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe

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        • Originally posted by hptmurphy View Post
          Been here before with Deirdre and look at how that finished....
          To be fair, Deirdre's conversion was doomed as soon as her ambitious new owner was killed in a Helicopter accident. After which she became a part of the provate process. Another asset that needed to be disposed of.
          Has it not happened mid conversion she may have made a fine yacht. Remember there are many ex warships of similar size that continued to serve far longer than their service in grey.

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          For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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          • Originally posted by na grohmití View Post
            To be fair, Deirdre's conversion was doomed as soon as her ambitious new owner was killed in a Helicopter accident. After which she became a part of the provate process. Another asset that needed to be disposed of.
            Has it not happened mid conversion she may have made a fine yacht. Remember there are many ex warships of similar size that continued to serve far longer than their service in grey.

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            I think they bit off more than they could ever chew with Deirdre.

            EX service vessels make fine research vessels etc but as a yacht, surely the expenditure of €10 million on a 37 year old well worn patrol vessel is excessive to the point of wasteful...unless you of course have a customer in the wings.
            Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe

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            • Deirdre in the US

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              • Originally posted by Tempest View Post
                If any NS vessel can be saved/preserved it should be Eithne, but realistically how many people are going to want to pay to see her? If there was space in Haulbowline to develop a Naval museum she would be an ideal centrepiece, but it's not a realistic proposition sadly.
                It is all in the mind and our propensity to rush troublesome kit out the door. Ships that operate from dedicated service dockyards should have no difficulty to go through updating or preservation processes. Eithne still has a versatility that could be useful from the DA05 to her flight deck. She could operate naval UAV's, at the last count, the USA services operate almost 10,000 drones including one that targeted a ship 250nm away for a ship launched strike missile, the first ever. Deirdre scrapping saw her floating still while being stripped down. If it floats it can be used.

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                • Originally posted by Tempest View Post
                  If any NS vessel can be saved/preserved it should be Eithne, but realistically how many people are going to want to pay to see her? If there was space in Haulbowline to develop a Naval museum she would be an ideal centrepiece, but it's not a realistic proposition sadly.
                  Taking up quay space, costly to maintain etc

                  Spike Island (already award winning museum, linked with NS…)

                  or NMCI

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                  • Originally posted by DeV View Post

                    Taking up quay space, costly to maintain etc

                    Spike Island (already award winning museum, linked with NS…)

                    or NMCI
                    As commercial activity in Cork Harbour gradually moves downstream, much of the city quays are no longer in use. Rgere used to be 2 oil Jetties near the City, one at Tivoli, now demolished, and another at the Old Marina Power station, soon for demolition, though the jetty is intact and closed to public.
                    There are options, but what is needed is vision.
                    The MoD managed to keep a WW1 era cruiser & Battle of Jutland Survivor (HMS Caroline)alive for 100 years while being used as a Sea Cadet HQ in Belfast, recently restoring her to her original profile.
                    For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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                    • Originally posted by na grohmiti View Post

                      As commercial activity in Cork Harbour gradually moves downstream, much of the city quays are no longer in use. Rgere used to be 2 oil Jetties near the City, one at Tivoli, now demolished, and another at the Old Marina Power station, soon for demolition, though the jetty is intact and closed to public.
                      There are options, but what is needed is vision.
                      The MoD managed to keep a WW1 era cruiser & Battle of Jutland Survivor (HMS Caroline)alive for 100 years while being used as a Sea Cadet HQ in Belfast, recently restoring her to her original profile.
                      I was talking about Haulbowline

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                      • Originally posted by na grohmiti View Post

                        As commercial activity in Cork Harbour gradually moves downstream, much of the city quays are no longer in use. Rgere used to be 2 oil Jetties near the City, one at Tivoli, now demolished, and another at the Old Marina Power station, soon for demolition, though the jetty is intact and closed to public.
                        There are options, but what is needed is vision.
                        The MoD managed to keep a WW1 era cruiser & Battle of Jutland Survivor (HMS Caroline)alive for 100 years while being used as a Sea Cadet HQ in Belfast, recently restoring her to her original profile.
                        The MOD can burn through money compared to us, museum ships are not cheap to sustain, just look at the problems some of the US ships are getting into (and I’ll love to see how the U.K. handles Belfast at some point). Realistically I just don’t see the public support to make it viable.

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                        • Originally posted by Sparky42 View Post
                          The MOD can burn through money compared to us, museum ships are not cheap to sustain, just look at the problems some of the US ships are getting into (and I’ll love to see how the U.K. handles Belfast at some point). Realistically I just don’t see the public support to make it viable.
                          Despite what the public or rather dispirit politicians speaking on their behalf may say, most countries have some pride in where they journeyed from and are happy to have ceremonial remembrances by date, or by feature monuments ,including ships. Three of our Batch 1 OPV's are serving with other Navies-Malta, Nigeria, Libya. Why not spend money on Eithne and use her for another 10 years as a training vessel for Gunnery, boat work, radar operation ( put operations room back in action), cadet and trainee trips, UAV operations, engineer training etc. etc.
                          Last edited by ancientmariner; 20 June 2021, 20:14.

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                          • Originally posted by Sparky42 View Post
                            The MOD can burn through money compared to us, museum ships are not cheap to sustain, just look at the problems some of the US ships are getting into (and I’ll love to see how the U.K. handles Belfast at some point). Realistically I just don’t see the public support to make it viable.
                            Belfast is part of the Imperial War Museum, the fee and lottery grants etc... If I'm not mistaken, its mast referb was funded by the Russians over ten years ago in recognition of its role in the artic convoys, and the incident with its gangway in 2011 could have shut it down but didn't,. The next big thing is it's next Drydocking, last one was 1999, that could be interesting funding rise, especially with the fall of visitors due to covid.
                            It was the year of fire...the year of destruction...the year we took back what was ours.
                            It was the year of rebirth...the year of great sadness...the year of pain...and the year of joy.
                            It was a new age...It was the end of history.
                            It was the year everything changed.

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                            • Originally posted by CTU View Post

                              Belfast is part of the Imperial War Museum, the fee and lottery grants etc... If I'm not mistaken, its mast referb was funded by the Russians over ten years ago in recognition of its role in the artic convoys, and the incident with its gangway in 2011 could have shut it down but didn't,. The next big thing is it's next Drydocking, last one was 1999, that could be interesting funding rise, especially with the fall of visitors due to covid.
                              Yeah it was the dry docking I was referring to, I mean again if you look at some of the US hulls that’s what’s going to do them in.

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                              • USS Constitution and HMS Trafalgar are around the 200 year vintage, HMS Belfast in London is in her 80's. Our Cavalry Corps preserved some AFV's out of savings. Ships are a bit too big to do out of the piggy bank. Solution may be, to keep it part of the navy and include it in budgets, like USS Constitution.

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