but how often do you see the full compliment of ships out of the basin i dont think i have ever seen all ships out in the years below in the base (temp) or from cobh looking over
who threw the smoke in the van
Well it is clear to everyone in Cork harbour, including the 2000 or so foreign passengers on the cruise liner that visited yesterday that one of the LPVs has scaffolding around its masts and won't be going anywhere in a hurry. Same difference here.
Also it is worth noting that one of the LPVs was actually carrying out patrols before she was officially commissioned. So again no capability loss.
In the past 30 years the NS is the one branch of the DF that could never be accused of lack offorward planning, everything has been geared around the future . In one area alone the use of IT the NS was training programmers before the rest of the DF was still using up its vast reserves of carbon paper!True but lack of forward planning leads to reduced capability.
the use of DEs has always pushed the NS ahead, the fact that all the junior officers up to 1992 went through the international sub lieutenants course in the UK meant they were abreast of modern technology and concepts even proposals before the could be funded. The current FOCNS served his time on some of the most flexible types in the world while on the above mentioned course and learned about Blue/ Green ops.
Stagnation is not in the NS dictionary!
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we are discussing a naval topic in a naval thread, inference therefore is assumed.I didn't says on the NS's behalf
Auctioneer Dominic J Daly Appointed to Sell Naval Vessels LE Emer & LE Aoife
http://afloat.ie/port-news/navy/item...-emer-le-aoifeCork Auctioneer Dominic Daly is to sell the Navy Vessel LE Emer (P21) in early October. The Auctioneer, who recently handled the public auction of the Clipper Faith Cargo vessel for the Admiralty Marshall, confirmed arrangements are now in place with the Department of Defence to dispose of the ship this Autumn. Interest could come from a variety of sources including the conversion of the ships for the superyacht market or use as an offshore energy supply boat or a research vessel.
A year later the sister ship LE Aoife (P22) will also go on the market. Both ships are being replaced with new builds for the Irish Naval Service.
As Afloat.ie reported in May, the two Irish-built navy patrol ships launched at Verolme Cork Dockyard, are to be sold off after 40 years of service.
LE Emer (P21) and a sister ship LE Aoife (P22) were built between 1978 and 1980 at the Rushbrooke shipyard near in Cobh, Co Cork.
The first ship of four in the Offshore Patrol Vessel (OPV) class built in Cork in 1972, the LE Deirdre (P20) , was decommissioned in 2001 and sold for €190,000. She was later converted into a luxury yacht.
The two ships will be replaced by two new OPVs currently under construction in the UK.
Hmm. Mixed feelings about that. He's a well established auctioneer, and hopefully will, to secure a decent commission himself, get the best possible price for the ships, which are still in good running order. At the same time I'd like to see them get an appropriate end to their service, and not end up rotting away in some foreign shipyard, mid conversion into floating penis extension.
The former LE Deirdre is hardly a rusting hulk these days, although it took them long enough to convert her. I'd prefer to see them rusting somewhere rather than crewed by a bunch of idiots in the Antarctic chasing whalers.
which are still in( good )running order.
lets settle on running order, They have become problematic engineering wise internally as was discussed about LE AOIFE alongside in Waterford recently.
If they are to be sold they will have to be bought by someone with good experience of the type of machinery aboard,
Should the not be donated as part of our overseas aid package to some emerging nation as opposed to trying to generate cash for them which will be sucked into the coffers of state?
Given the price the Ark Royal made recently, they have no scrap value....and with associated clean ups would probably cost the state money.
Hard one to call,emerging nations that have a viable NS up and running have moved past relicts,those with little or no NS may not thank you for inflicting the P21s on them and could well strangle the NS concerned .Is it the case that the Mauritius PV80 is laid up in disrepair.
Bangladesh operated the Island Class and Castle Class PVs after the brits offloaded them, same vintage as some of ours.Hard one to call,emerging nations that have a viable NS up and running have moved past relicts,those with little or no NS may not thank you for inflicting the P21s on them and could well strangle the NS concerned .Is it the case that the Mauritius PV80 is laid up in disrepair.
Sold as seen, any major work would make them uneconomical to sell.They have paid for themselves 100 times over in Irish Service and owe the State nothing, and cash amount would only be a token.In fairness, they have given a good return on investment but if we get a few euros for them it will help pay for their replacements.
Again to clean them up for scrapping would exceed their value.
Bit of a quandry all round if they fail to sell.
Do we owe our masters in the E.U. a percentage of the sale , did they help with the original funding ?
Don't spit in my Bouillabaisse .
It was a Grant, not a loan.
There was a scoping study published jointly by the NS and some researchers asserting a national maritime museam at HBL to include ships/craft alongside.Probabaly just a pipedream due to lack of dosh.
It was one of the proposals put forward for use of the Former ISPAT site following cleanup. However cleanup may take longer than was originally planned, now they have to rebuild the bridge.
L.É. EMER set sail on her final operational maritime defence patrol this morning after a remarkable 35 years service.
Back to a 7 vessel NS shortly
With the plans how about at Spike?
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