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    Wearing non-issued gear.

    I was only issued 1 DPM uniform, but I have a two week camp, will I get abuse for wearing uniform I bought as opposed to issued?
    Probably a stupid question but there you go! :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack.s View Post
    I was only issued 1 DPM uniform, but I have a two week camp, will I get abuse for wearing uniform I bought as opposed to issued?
    Probably a stupid question but there you go! :P
    Are you a recruit? Then most other people will be in the same boat. You'll be able to get your uniform washed. Dont waste your money on buying things that should/will be issued to you.
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    Don't buy Irish (and especially not foreign) DPM kit.

    On Day 2 ask your section commander

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack.s View Post
    I was only issued 1 DPM uniform, but I have a two week camp, will I get abuse for wearing uniform I bought as opposed to issued?
    Probably a stupid question but there you go! :P
    Go to your unit section commander. Ask for 2nd shirt, trousers, t-shirt, by all means buy socks, plain dark green t-shirts with no logos on them if possible. Don't wear football socks. Go to tkmaxx.

    Don't wear non issue NON rish dpm. If you already have irish army issue clothing you bought, please note its illegal to sell or purchase Irish army uniforms. However if you have access to spare Irish army trousers and shirt, bring them.

    Your unit has a CQ (prob 4 after the reorg)? Not sure of recruit scale of issue, the info is out there somewhere though but if you're entitled to two uniforms your CQ can and should sort this out for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeV View Post
    Don't buy Irish (and especially not foreign) DPM kit.

    On Day 2 ask your section commander
    It also needs to be illegal to produce or sell Irish military or police uniforms through various back channels. Look at the amount of kit that paraded around Dublin City centre under the eyes of the Establishment. It was a deliberate affront to our Army and State. At the same time the USA based branch were pumping out a fund raiser show on Facebook under " Brits Get out of Ireland " banners and the artist was a guitar playing " One Shot Kelly". Were they friends of MLMcD, didn't she march behind their banner?? The dust bin of history is waiting for a lot of garbage.

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    Many people forget that the Defence Act already has provisions

    264.—(1) If any person (not being a member of the Defence Forces) wears, without permission granted by or on behalf of the Minister, any uniform of the Defence Forces or any colourable imitation thereof, such person shall be guilty of an offence under this section and shall be liable on summary conviction thereof to a fine not exceeding ten pounds or, at the discretion of the court, to imprisonment for any term not exceeding three months.

    (2) Subsection (1) of this section shall not apply in respect of the wearing of any uniform of the Defence Forces or any colourable imitation thereof in the course of a stage play or other dramatic representation or performance.

    (3) In this section the word “uniform” includes any distinctive part of a uniform.
    3 months in pokey . Is a Tricolour not distinctive ?

    265.—(1) If any person wears any uniform of the Defence Forces or any dress, having the appearance of, or bearing any of the regimental or other distinctive marks of, any such uniform, in such a manner or in such circumstances as to be likely to bring contempt upon that uniform, such person shall be guilty of an offence under this subsection.

    (2) If any person employs any other person to wear any uniform of the Defence Forces or any dress, having the appearance of, or bearing any of the regimental or other distinctive marks of, any such uniform, in such a manner or in such circumstances as to be likely to bring contempt upon that uniform, such first-mentioned person shall be guilty of an offence under this subsection.

    (3) Any person who is guilty of an offence under subsection (1) or (2) of this section shall be liable on summary conviction thereof to a fine not exceeding twenty pounds or, at the discretion of the court, to imprisonment for any term not exceeding six months.
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    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1...en/html#sec265
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    Quote Originally Posted by trellheim View Post
    Many people forget that the Defence Act already has provisions



    3 months in pokey . Is a Tricolour not distinctive ?


    6 months in pokey

    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1...en/html#sec264

    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1...en/html#sec265
    As amended by the 1987 Act which increased:
    - Section 264 to fine of IR£1000 and/or 6 months
    - And the fine in Section 265 to IR£200

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    Should be illegal to wear a paramilitary style uniform in a parade

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeV View Post
    Should be illegal to wear a paramilitary style uniform in a parade
    Especially if it is 1980’s/90’s British Army working dress...
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    Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
    He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flamingo View Post
    Especially if it is 1980’s/90’s British Army working dress...
    I'm guessing that they don't see the irony of the "Brits out" attitude with wearing the British Army working dress of days gone past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ODIN View Post
    I'm guessing that they don't see the irony of the "Brits out" attitude with wearing the British Army working dress of days gone past.
    Well, it goes without saying they aren’t the sharpest tools in the box...

    I’m glad I wasn’t there. I don’t think I’d have been able to resist shouting:

    - “Do none of you muppets know what an iron and starch are? And what is that turd on your head? Get down and giv me 20 and then get out of my sight! You look like a sack of shit tied in the middle! And while you’re at it, get a bloody haircut!”

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    'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
    'Unselfishly so we might have today!'
    Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
    He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
    http://www.salamanderoasis.org/poems...nnis/luck.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flamingo View Post
    Well, it goes without saying they aren’t the sharpest tools in the box...

    I’m glad I wasn’t there. I don’t think I’d have been able to resist shouting:

    - “Do none of you muppets know what an iron and starch are? And what is that turd on your head? Get down and giv me 20 and then get out of my sight! You look like a sack of shit tied in the middle! And while you’re at it, get a bloody haircut!”

    The ongoing problem is that they are describing a reformed pan-national, multi-denominational , police force as the enemy. Their offices and communications need to be closed down. We need stricter rules for politicians--any party that promotes confrontation with the state , incurring time and cost to the state, and participating in such exercises on the street, should be forbidden to do so as a member of our parliament. MLmcD marched with those yet to be killers in New York.
    Last edited by ancientmariner; 23rd April 2019 at 09:20.

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    Had i been close to that parade i would have called out a few foot drill orders to the participants , a good old Iompaig Tahart followed by another one and another one . The confusion would have been priceless .
    Don't spit in my Bouillabaisse .

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    You are assuming they would understand the commands in Irish

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bravo20 View Post
    You are assuming they would understand the commands in Irish
    We can only hope , but my logical thought says they would .
    Don't spit in my Bouillabaisse .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bravo20 View Post
    You are assuming they would understand the commands in Irish
    WE're assuming Laners still remembers footdrill given its 32 years since he gave any one an order....
    Time for another break I think......

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    I never had to order anyone around , they always done as i asked .
    Don't spit in my Bouillabaisse .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laners View Post
    I never had to order anyone around , they always done as i asked .
    Nothing beats a please and thank you
    'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
    'Unselfishly so we might have today!'
    Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
    He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
    http://www.salamanderoasis.org/poems...nnis/luck.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laners View Post
    I never had to order anyone around , they always done as i asked .
    I can think of Three good reasons why they should not refuse

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    Most human life is sacred. when the dross of the country pointed the gun at that group of people. it was good a Juro was the one hit,
    because they are the ones who write the headlines . Remember when Veronica Guerin was murdered? The Guards could have lynched any scum involved from the nearest tree and the juro's would have looked the other way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laners View Post
    I never had to order anyone around , they always done as i asked .
    Yeah, never piss off the Chef.. we all saw what happened when Casey Ryback got pissed off!
    Time for another break I think......

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    Quote Originally Posted by ancientmariner View Post
    The ongoing problem is that they are describing a reformed pan-national, multi-denominational , police force as the enemy. Their offices and communications need to be closed down. We need stricter rules for politicians--any party that promotes confrontation with the state , incurring time and cost to the state, and participating in such exercises on the street, should be forbidden to do so as a member of our parliament. MLmcD marched with those yet to be killers in New York.
    The power vacuum in NI feeds this type of group. The longer it remains the stronger they become. The NI politicos need to cop on to themselves and realise this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ancientmariner View Post
    The ongoing problem is that they are describing a reformed pan-national, multi-denominational , police force as the enemy. Their offices and communications need to be closed down. We need stricter rules for politicians--any party that promotes confrontation with the state , incurring time and cost to the state, and participating in such exercises on the street, should be forbidden to do so as a member of our parliament. MLmcD marched with those yet to be killers in New York.
    Our perennial problem is that the wearing of partial or full uniform in public is an act of defiance , and unfortunately potential threat. Within a few weeks of NY parade and those at home, somebody was shot dead with a deliberate head shot. On the other hand in the UK thousands march in made up uniformity, every November , on the 11th Day at the 11th hour, to commemorate those , including our people , who fell in their services in past wars. NO Threat- NO significance- just a memorial.

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