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  • Originally posted by johnhan278 View Post
    Quite a few border incidents and crossfire lately

    Does UNDOF ever comment on who did what?
    Does UNDOF have any equipment to monitor the area other than optics?
    I read an article which said that the Syrians weren't allowing IED detection equipment in, but I don't know if that has changed.

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    • I was talking to a chap recently

      Obviously logistics wise everything goes through Syria, a few dangerous moments

      Same on the Golan

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      • Originally posted by DeV View Post
        I was talking to a chap recently

        Obviously logistics wise everything goes through Syria, a few dangerous moments

        Same on the Golan
        I've heard some very dodgy stories from lads who were out there. How some of it hasn't ended up in the papers I don't know.
        To close with and kill the enemy in all weather conditions, night and day and over any terrain

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        • Almost every day stray rounds including artillery, mortar and tank rounds and shrapnel are hitting UN positions and vehicles, fired by all three sides, Syria army, rebel groups and Israel military.
          The rebels who abducted the UN peacekeepers are now using the UN vehicles and equipment they stole, this has led to the Syria army firing on a UN vehicle believing that its the rebels. The rebels wearing stolen UN bodyarmour have fired from unmanned or temporary-manned UN positions.

          The Irish Times article on post #327 above is very accurate as the info is based on an UNDOF report.

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          • speaking to a friend who's serving there, not all the incoming is "stray rounds" by any matter of means.

            the opposite in fact according to him with regular, directed fire incoming on both static positions and mobile patrols.

            he went so far to say most patrols are going out expecting to and do use a couple of hundred rounds of all calibers on most occasions.

            as HavocIRL said, lots of stories doing the rounds and amazing how its not in media more.

            but that's the interest in the DF in a nutshell. overseas and forgotten about while the country is at a stand still to see if Garth Brooks might sing us a few songs
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            An army is power. Its entire purpose is to coerce others. This power can not be used carelessly or recklessly. This power can do great harm. We have seen more suffering than any man should ever see, and if there is going to be an end to it, it must be an end that justifies the cost. Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain

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            • To be fair, it very much seems that the DF does not want 'incidents' in Syria to be common knowledge.

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              • It's almost like the government doesn't want word to get out how little they care about the Bods in the DF when they send them on a deployment like UNDOF.
                Everyone who's ever loved you was wrong.

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                • helmet/phone cam, Youtube. give it 48hrs and it would go viral and be on the news and the stills would be in every paper...

                  in 2006/7 the MOD didn't want WW3 in Helmand and its distinct lack of assigned assets to fight that WW3 much publicised, the media 'getting hold of' lots of rather sporty footage changed the political atmosphere rather quickly, and all of a sudden the numbers trebled and a man could walk from one end of Bastion to the other while treading on nothing but the rear ramps of Chinooks...

                  its not the DF who don't want it getting out, its the politicians - images of Irish soldiers being shot at every day might provoke difficult questions, or worse, a requirement to spend money.

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                  • Originally posted by ropebag View Post
                    helmet/phone cam, Youtube. give it 48hrs and it would go viral and be on the news and the stills would be in every paper...

                    in 2006/7 the MOD didn't want WW3 in Helmand and its distinct lack of assigned assets to fight that WW3 much publicised, the media 'getting hold of' lots of rather sporty footage changed the political atmosphere rather quickly, and all of a sudden the numbers trebled and a man could walk from one end of Bastion to the other while treading on nothing but the rear ramps of Chinooks...

                    its not the DF who don't want it getting out, its the politicians - images of Irish soldiers being shot at every day might provoke difficult questions, or worse, a requirement to spend money.
                    Your analogy with the results of adverse publicity on MOD policy with UNDOF is way off the mark. The immediate reaction in Ireland is that the Aosdana/"everything wrong in the world is Israel's fault"/PBP/SF crowd would flood the letters page of the Times with "Bring them home" demands, leading to "if we can't send them overseas what do we need an Army for" debate. Ultimately leading to a close down the Army, privatise the Air Corps and replace the Navy with UAVs "debate". I use the term debate in inverted commas because the term Defence in Ireland evokes discussion that makes the break room conversations in "One Flew over the cuckoos nest" look like a meeting of Mensa.

                    Getting a raft of new defensive equipment would be the last thing that would result. I'm not arguing with the basic premise that we should be publicising what the DF do, and risk, overseas - just stating the bleeding obvious that in our benighted country Defence is a dirty word and those who advocate an informed debate on the topic are somehow viewed as benighted, revisionist pro Nato warmongers. You have more chance of an informed debate on introducing nuclear power.
                    “The nation that will insist on drawing a broad line of demarcation between the fighting man and the thinking man is liable to find its fighting done by fools and its thinking done by cowards.”
                    ― Thucydides

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                    • Post of the year, that.

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                      • With the rise of ISIS , I think Jordan wants the syria rebel southern front to disappear asap
                        Rebels leader was killed by unknown gunmen in Jordan recently and the Kingdom announced it won't be hosting rebel training camps. shades of Jordan liquidating the PLO in black September 1970's except more quietly and sneaky.

                        If the Southern front goes into a death spiral and collapse the rebels could get a whole lot more dangerous and irrational.

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                        • The DFPO doesn't publish it but then again the UN doesn't either

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                          • Sad but true

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                            • Any chance of anybody having a chat with the resident hack, Mick?
                              'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
                              'Unselfishly so we might have today!'
                              Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
                              He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
                              http://www.salamanderoasis.org/poems...nnis/luck.html

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                              • Whoooooah- before we start filming every single engagement we get into. Just stop and think about it. Do you really want the families at home to have that extra worry.

                                Leave the Hollywood stuff to Ross Kemp, we know what we did and what we do on a daily basis, we don't need to frighten the shites with worry out of kids, wives and Mammies.
                                Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
                                Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
                                The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere***
                                The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
                                The best lack all conviction, while the worst
                                Are full of passionate intensity.

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