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  • Sept 6th

    1798

    Generals Humbert and Lake were still dancing a Two-Step in Connacht.

    1813

    Isaac Butt, barrister was born in Glenfin, Co. Donegal.

    1831

    Jeremiah O'Donovan Rossa was born in Rosscarbery, Co. Cork.

    1940

    Executed in Mountjoy Jail for offences against the state.


    Thomas Harte from Lurgan, Co. Armagh.

    Patrick McGrath from Dublin.

    Died

    1914

    serving in 2nd Bn Royal Irish Regt on the Western Front


    7498 Pte John Hayes from Tipperary Town.

    8334 Pte James Kennedy. Son of Patrick and Mary Kennedy, 34 River St, Clonmel.

    1916

    16477 Pte Patrick Doody, 7th Bn Royal Irish Fusiliers. Died of wounds on the Western Front. He was from Ferrybank, Co. Waterford.

    8940 Pte Patrick Hanley, 6th Bn Royal Irish Regt. Died on the Western Front. He was from Cashel, Co. Tipperary.

    43008 Pte James Roche, 8th Bn Royal Irish Fusiliers. Died on the Western Front. He was from Carrick-on-Suir, Co. Tipperary.

    1918

    43035 Pte Charles Moore, 1st Bn Royal Dublin Fusiliers. Killed in action on the Western Front. He was from Cashel, Co. Tipperary.

    1919

    54833 Sgt Philip Brady, RIC. KIA in Lorrha, Co. Tipperary. He was born in Cavan in 1863.
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    • Sept 7th

      1533

      Elizabeth Tudor was born, daughter of Henry VIII and Ann Boleyn. She became Elizabeth I.

      1599

      The Earl of Essex signed a treaty with the Earl of Tyrone. Elizabeth I was displeased and cut his head off.

      1812

      The Battle of Borodino was fought by Napoleon on the way to Moscow.

      1863

      In the Maori War in New Zealand, L/Cpl John Ryan, 65th Foot, earned a VC when he retrieved the body of an officer and stayed in the bush with it all night surrounded by the enemy.. He drowned in December attempting to rescue a comrade from a river.

      Another VC man that day and in the same place was Colour Sgt Edward McKenna of the same regiment. Despite the Irish name he is registered as English.

      1876

      The James/Younger gang tried to rob the First National Bank of Northfield, Minnesota. Joseph Heywood, the bank teller, was shot and killed when he refused to open the safe. The 3 Younger brothers, Cole, Bob and Jim, were captured 2 weeks. 3 others were killed. Photos of all 6 were taken at the time and identified by Cole Younger, who wrote the names on the pictures. The pictures sold at auction in 1999 for $39,100. A reenactment of the raid has become a regular event since 1970.

      1914

      The Battle of the Marne began lasting four days. It was a last ditch effort to prevent Paris falling into German hands, though the German 1st Army had already turned south and was no longer attempting to swing around the French capital. Joffre hit the German flank with his reserve, as did the BEF to the north. After the long retreat from Mons, the turn of the tide increased morale and the Germans began to withdraw. The BEFs contribution was small but the Irish were well represented by the 4th Royal Irish Dragoon Guards, 5th Royal Irish Lancers, the Irish Guards, 2nd Bn Connaught Rangers, 2nd Bn Royal Irish Rifles, 2nd Bn Royal Irish Regt, 1st Bn Royal Irish Fusiliers and 2nd Bn Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers

      Died

      1915

      770 Pte Gerald Coffey, 5th Bn Connaught Rangers. He died in England.

      1916

      4586 Rifleman John O'Brien, 7th Bn Royal Irish Rifles. Killed in action on the Western Front. He was from Waterford.

      1918

      10178 Rifleman John Mahoney, 1st Bn Royal Irish Rifles. Killed in action on the Western Front. From Kilmacow, Co. Kilkenny.

      1922

      Pte J Hanley from Thurles Co. Tipperary, a member of the National Army, was killed in action at Cuckoohill, Co. Tipperary.
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      • Sept 8th

        1798

        The Battle of Ballinamuck ended the “The Year of the French". Humbert surrendered after a short fight.

        1855

        The Victoria Cross was awarded to the following Irishmen at Sebastopol in the Crimea.


        Bombardier Daniel Cambridge, Royal Artillery, volunteered to go with a spiking party and was wounded in the leg and the jaw. He later rescued a wounded comrade. He was one of the original 62 men who received the inaugural award of the medal from Queen Victoria.

        Pte John Connors, 3rd Foot. Rescued a wounded officer from the Russians.

        Sgt Andrew Moynihan, 90th Foot. Killed 5 Russians hand to hand during an assault and rescued a wounded officer.

        1886

        Siegfried Sassoon was born. He led a directionless life until the First World War when he was commissioned a Lieutenant in the Royal Welsh Fusiliers (after a short time as a Private in a Yeomanry Regt). He served with and was a good friend of Robert Graves. His experiences on the Western Front changed his attitude to war and. He wrote a letter condemning British War Aims to the newspapers and was saved from Court Martial only by the fact that he was a holder of the Military Cross. He was used by the anti-war section of British Society for a while. After a stay in a Scottish Physciatric Hospital, where he met Wilfred Owen, he returned to the front. Sassoon is probably the most well known of the Great War poets. He died in 1967.


        Base Details

        IF I were fierce, and bald, and short of breath,
        I’d live with scarlet Majors at the Base,
        And speed glum heroes up the line to death.
        You’d see me with my puffy petulant face,
        Guzzling and gulping in the best hotel,
        Reading the Roll of Honour. ‘Poor young chap
        I’d say—‘I used to know his father well;
        Yes, we’ve lost heavily in this last scrap.’
        And when the war is done and youth stone dead,
        I’d toddle safely home and die—in bed.



        1939

        The Germans reached Warsaw.

        1944

        The first V2 Rocket landed on London.

        1966

        Star Trek premiered on NBC with the episode "The Man Trap".

        Died

        1914

        10897 Pte William Power, 2nd Bn Royal Irish Regt. Killed in action on the Western Front. He was from Dungarvan.

        1916

        Capt Henry O'Brien, RAMC. Died of wounds on the Western Front. He is buried in St Marie Cemetery, Le Havre. He was the son of Richard & Elizabeth O’Brien. 3 Jervis Place, Clonmel.

        1918

        G/60660 Pte Albert Quibell, 23rd Bn Middlesex Regt. Died of wounds on the Western Front. He was from Waterford.

        1922

        Vol Michael Heffernan from Drangan was KIA there while serving in the IRA.
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        • Sept 9th

          1087

          William the Conqueror, Duke of Normandy and King of England, died in Rouen. He was buried in Caen Cathedral.

          1831

          £30,000 was allocated to establish the National School system of education in Ireland.

          1845

          A story appeared in the Dublin Evening Post about the arrival of the potato blight in Ireland.

          1893

          The House of Lords rejected the Second Home Rule Bill.

          1916

          It is Ginchy Day. 16th (Irish)Division captured the village of Ginchy during the Battle of the Somme.

          The division consisted of three brigades- 47th, 48th and 49th.

          In 47th Bde were 6th Royal Irish Regt, 8th Munsters, 6th Connaughts, 7th Leinsters. There were also two companies of pioneers from 11th Hampshires and the 47th MG Coy. These were the survivors of the capture of Guillemont a week before. The brigade strength was 1300 all ranks.

          48th Bde was formed from 1st Munsters, 7th Royal Irish Rifles and 8th and 9th Bns Dublin Fusiliers.

          49th Bde consisted of 7th and 8th Royal Irish Fusiliers and 7th and 8th Inniskillings.

          The artillery barrage began at 7am on Sept 9th, Zero Hour being set at 4.45pm. The assaulting battalions were sheltered in shallow trenches east and north east of the village. The division formation was front left 48th Bde, front right 47th Bde. Rear 49th Bde. Close to Zero hour orders were issued delaying the attack by two minutes. 48th Bde never received the order and advanced at 4.45. into their own barrage.

          47th Bde’s forward battalions-6th Royal Irish and 8th Munsters walked into the German counter barrage and also suffered heavily from close range MG and rifle fire from German positions south east of Ginchy. These positions were in dead ground and had been overlooked by the artillery barrage. 8th Munsters advanced only 100m. The Connaughts lost two company commanders as soon as they left their trenches. For the 7th Leinsters, Ginchy was the worst day in the battalion’s history. The assembly trenches were soon clogged with casualties, while out in No Man’s Land the living took shelter in shell holes. For the 47th Bde it was a story that many other units had experienced on July 1st. The brigade was pinned down and in fact had to beat off several German attacks until the morning of the 10th. An attempt at support from 7th Inniskillings failed to improve matters. When relieved the Bde had lost 450 men, including the battalion commander of the Royal Irish and his Adjutant. In addition the Inniskillings lost 200 men reinforcing the brigade.

          On the right 48th Bde faced some difficulties too. Finding their positions separated by a wide swathe of ground from the Germans they spent the night before battle digging assembly trenches in No Man’s Land. When the barrage began the 48th suffered casualties fro their own ‘shorts’. Because of course no one had told the artillery that the brigade was now out further forward. The Germans also added to the toll.

          At 4.45 pm the two lead battalions left their trenches-1st Munsters on the left, 7th Royal Irish Rifles on the right. The Munsters were immediately held up by the same German positions that had decimated 47th Bde. All company commanders, but one, were casualties within seconds. One company was commanded by it’s CSM. The rifles were down to 150 men before they even left their trenches and needed to be reinforced by the 7th Royal Irish Fusiliers before they even left their trenches. But the tide of battle now turned in favour of the Irish. The two 7ths broke through the German lines and into the outskirts of the village. German opposition was mortared and at 5.30 pm both Dublin Fusilier battalions took the village and advanced 300m beyond it. Lacking support they were driven back to the village where they consolidated. The assault was costly, both battalion commanders were casualties-1 dead, 1 wounded and the brigade suffered 1,400 casualties overall, including 200 KIA.

          But the battle was not yet over. Ginchy now formed a salient in the German line and it was attacked during the night, with the 48th clinging desperately to the blasted rubble. 8th Irish Fusiliers were sent forward to reinforce the village, where the troops linked up shell holes to form defensive positions. Rations were provided courtesy of the German dead. Having beaten off two counter-attacks, the 48th Bde was relieved by the 3rd Guards Bde on the morning of the 10th.

          One of the 9th Dublins was Nationalist MP Lt. Tom Kettle. He wrote a letter to his brother the night before battle-“Somewhere the Choosers of the Slain are touching, as in our Norse story they used to touch, with invisible wands those who are to die.” It was prophetic for Tom Kettle was one of the Chosen. His brother in law Francis Sheehy-Skeffington ahd been murdered in the Easter Rebellion a few months before. A famous in-law of both is Conor Cruise O’Brien.

          Another famous nationalist survived Ginchy-Lt Emmet Dalton, earned an MC on the day and lived to fight in the War of Independence and the Civil War. Despite Neil Jordan’s interpretation Lt Col Emmet Dalton was the man beside Michael Collins at Béal na Bláth.

          Other MC laureates that day were Fr Willy Doyle, Chaplain in 8th Royal Irish Fusiliers and another chaplain Fr Wrafter also merited the MC. Fr Maurice O’Connell received one of 6 DSOs awarded to the Division amongst the 300 decorations earned by the 16th at Ginchy.

          Major Willy Redmond MP for East Clare was on the Divisional Staff.

          The 16th (Irish) Division suffered heavily during it’s first ten days on the Somme. 650 men were known to have been killed in action, 2800 wounded and another 800 were missing. Officer casualties were over 50%.

          Go ndeana Dia trócaire orthu.



          To my Daughter Betty, The gift of God.

          In wiser days, my darling rosebud, blown
          To beauty proud as was your mother's prime,
          In that desired, delayed, incredible time,
          You'll ask why I abandoned you, my own,
          And the dear heart that was your baby throne,
          To dice with death. And oh! they'll give you rhyme
          And reason: some will call the thing sublime,
          And some decry it in a knowing tone.
          So here, while the mad guns curse overhead,
          And tired men sigh with mud for couch and floor,
          Know that we fools, now with the foolish dead,
          Died not for flag, nor King, nor Emperor,—
          But for a dream, born in a herdsman's shed,
          And for the secret Scripture of the poor.

          By Lt Tom Kettle. In the Field before Guillemont Sept 4th 1916.

          Died

          1916
          Killed in action at Ginchy with 6th Bn Royal Irish Regt

          2/Lt Eric Hackett. Born Clonmel. His brother and sister also died in service.

          9391 CQMS Maurice Martin. Co. Tipperary.

          9806 Pte William Hackett. Lismore, Co. Waterford.

          5274 Pte Edward Hayden. Slieverue, Co. Waterford.

          10155 Pte Thomas O'Brien. Kilmacthomas, Co. Waterford.

          Killed in action at Ginchy with 7th Bn Leinster Regt

          10378 Pte Thomas Collins, Waterford.

          2760 Sgt John Harrison, Ballybricken, Waterford.

          Killed in action at Ginchy with 8th Bn Royal Munster Fusiliers

          4388 Pte Patrick Cuddihy, Ballybricken, Waterford.

          1854 Pte John Ryan, Kilmacow, Co. Kilkenny.

          Other Units

          14033 Pte John Collins. 1st Bn Royal Munster Fusiliers. Killed in action at Ginchy. From Waterford.

          18773 Pte John Reddy. 1st Bn South Wales Borderers. Killed in action High Wood on the Somme. He was from Mooncoin, Co. Kilkenny.

          2271 Rifleman Joseph Lappin. 12th Bn The London Regt. Killed in action Bouleux Wood on the Somme. He was from Waterford.

          43308 Pte Edward Hackett. 44th Coy, Machine Gun Corps (Inf) in 15th (Scottish) Division. Killed in action on the Western Front. Son of Daniel and Ellen Hackett, 33 Thomas St, Clonmel, Co. Tipperary.

          25382 Gnr Matthew Tynan from Killenaule, Co. Tipperary. He died in India, serving in the Royal Garrison Artillery.

          1921

          Vol Declan Hurton from Ardmore, Co. Waterford, was killed in an explosion in Thurles railway station. He had just been released from prison as a result of the Truce. Mmebers of the RIC were blamed for planting the bomb.

          1940

          1039308 Pte T J Cahill, 8th Bn King's Royal Rifle Corps. He was from Tipperary Town. He died in England.
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          • Elizabeth I was displeased and cut his head off.
            Just like in "Blackadder II":D

            he was commissioned a Lieutenant in the Royal Welsh Fusiliers
            Shouldn't that be "Welch"?

            Despite Neil Jordan’s interpretation Lt Col Emmet Dalton was the man beside Michael Collins at Béal na Bláth.
            I don't think it's too fanciful to suggest that Jordan's movie has influenced younger voters to vote SF - I particularly liked Ned Broy being tortured to death by the Brits and the car bomb in the castle killing the northern Peelers - Lord, how the Unionists must have guffawed at that one.
            "Hello, Good Evening and Bollocks..."

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            • Shouldn't that be "Welch"?

              Bless you. Between 1881 and 1921 the title was officially Royal Welsh Fusiliers. From formation in 1689 to 1751(when everyone was numbered) the spelling Welch was used. Unofficially the regiment always called itself the Royal Welch Fusiliers, even when it was the 23rd Foot. So we're both right.:D My wife's Uncle went to England to work on the buildings and got shafted for National Service. He was the only Kinsale man in the RWF in Malaya.:D

              Neil Jordan can never be accused of letting the truth get in the way of a good story. I once heard a man say that the film proved conclusively that De Valera dunnit.
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              • There was a number of more factual films made involving Collins. Sadly the one that bore his name was the most fictional of them. Liam Neeson got a heroes welcome in Clonakilty soon after for his depiction of collins,even though Brendan Gleeson gave a much closer performance in "the Treaty".

                I would be inclined to say that Neil Jordans "fact based"(second word in that phrase being most important) set the peace process back a few steps. Some other moviemakers have been guilty of that too...."Some Mothers son", "In the name of the father",to name but 2.


                Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                • Sept 10th

                  1547

                  The Duke of Somerset defeated the Scots at Pinkie Cleugh. As a battle it is irrelevant but the name is great.:D Somerset was in Scotland to ensure that Mary Queen of Scots married the new King, Edward VI. She didn't anyway. The battle was remarkable only because the English Navy participated by firing on the Scottish army. Possibly the first instance of Naval Gun Fire Support in history.

                  1602

                  Red Hugh O'Donnell died in Simancas, Spain. He may have been poisoned by an English spy.

                  1857

                  Sebastopol fell to the Allied armies in the Crimean war.

                  1857

                  During the Siege of Delhi Pte John Divane of the 60th Rifles earned a VC leading a charge of Indian infantry. Divane is also called Devine and Duane. John was from Co. Galway.

                  1914

                  The Battle of the Marne ended with the Germans pushed back across the river that gave it’s name to the battle.

                  1923

                  We joined the League of Nations.

                  1977

                  The last person to be executed by the guillotine in France got the chop today. He was Hamida Djandoubi from Tunisia.

                  Died

                  1916

                  26437 Pte Frank Forde, 10th Bn Royal Dublin Fusiliers. Killed in action on the Western Front. He was from Dungarvan, Co. Waterford.

                  6946 Pte Denis Bannon 6th Bn Connaught Rangers. Killed in action on the Western Front.

                  1963 Pte James Fitzpatrick, 6th Bn Royal Irish Regt. Killed in action on the Western Front. He was from Fethard, Co. Tipperary.
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                  • though Brendan Gleeson gave a much closer performance in "the Treaty".


                    Didn't Gleeson play the part of Emmet Dalton in "Michael Collins?

                    The 1981 Hunger Strike is becoming an industry. There's another film out called H3 (I think) about it.
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                    • No. Dalton became a composite character in that "film".Also Neeson who is in his late 40s to early fifties,was trying to play a man in his 30s. I am 32 and would be highly offended if for some reason I was represented in a movie,and was played by a man 20 years older than me...(never mind a leffooter)


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                      • I am 32 and would be highly offended if for some reason I was represented in a movie,and was played by a man 20 years older than me...(never mind a leffooter)


                        Why? You look like a 50 year old.:D
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                        • Originally posted by Goldie fish
                          I am 32....
                          WHAT?!?!?!?!? Christ almighty, I thought you served with Collins.
                          Meh.

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                          • In another life. In fact I was Collins. And they didnt call me the Big Fella cos I was tall


                            Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                            • Sept 11th

                              1297

                              The Battle of Stirling Bridge, Scotland.William Wallace defeated the English.

                              1649

                              Cromwell’s troops took Drogheda by storm and massacred the inhabitants.

                              1709

                              The Battle of Malplaquet was fought in Belgium between the British and the French. John Churchill, Duke of Marlborough, commanded and won the bloodiest battle of the 18th century. Ireland was ably represented by The Royal Irish Regt.

                              1857

                              Another Galway man earned a VC at Delhi. Pte Patrick Green, 75th Foot, rescued a comrade who had fallen wounded,among the enemy. Paddy is buried in Cork.

                              1922

                              The British mandate in Palestine began.

                              2001

                              I suppose we all know what happened on this day. 2749 people died in the terrorist attack on the World Trade Centre and the Pentagon.

                              Died

                              1915

                              20303 Pte Thomas Murray, 1st Bn Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers. Died At Sea. From Waterford.

                              1916

                              9560 Pte Denis Mc Grath, 1st Bn Irish Guards. Killed in action on the Western Front. He was from Dungarvan, Co. Waterford.

                              1917

                              8498 Pte Maurice Lacey, 1st Bn Irish Guards. Died of wounds on the Western Front. He was from Cappagh, Co. Waterford.

                              2769 Pte Thomas Brien, 1st Bn Royal Munster Fusiliers. Died on the Western Front. From Clonmel, Co. Tipperary.

                              200429 Pte E Carroll, Labour Corps. Died At Home and was buried in the Curragh Military Cemetery.
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                              • 9-11

                                Its easy to forget that there were real people killed that day. Any reports I have seen seem to concentrate on either the FDNY or the NYPD dead. Not the ordinary office workers ,cleaners, Tour guides etc. Normal people.

                                2749(or more) killed because they went about their lives.


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