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    Every airline worth it's salt has a door simulator for cabin crew emergency training so making a mock-up of a helicopter cabin is not beyond the reach of the DF. Lots of carpentry facilities available to the DF. It doesn't have to be fancy.It just has to work and look the part.....you could cycle EVERY recruit/cadet/nco platoon through a short, simple syllabus of helicopter familiarisation in very quick time, so that when they get up close to the real thing, they won't be intimidated and will behave sensibly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truck Driver View Post
    Well put it like this.... for a career RDF course I was on, the CoC managed to swing getting an AW139 down to our location.
    Spent a hour or so getting the full Pln trained up on embarking/diembarking drills with the aircarft sitting on the grass
    Then wound it up, and brought us up for a short spin, one section at a time

    Two days later, for our stint on the ground, TWO AW139s arrived and embarked us all from the camp to the training area

    Will never forget it, great buzz

    So it CAN be done with a bit of planning and work

    As 'Canner says, a unit liaison in every unit would not be bad idea....
    Was the year pre-2008?

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    2012 POTS course - RDF
    I personally opened the door on the AW139 as we approached the LZ and was first man on the ground as the students in the section were sent out one at a time into all round cover.
    That was my 4th or 5th time in a heli with the AC since I joined in 2004.
    Just so you know.
    "He is an enemy officer taken in battle and entitled to fair treatment."
    "No, sir. He's a sergeant, and they don't deserve no respect at all, sir. I should know. They're cunning and artful, if they're any good. I wouldn't mind if he was an officer, sir. But sergeants are clever."

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    it's about as difficult as opening the door on a Transit van. Good to hear that the RDF are getting airtime.

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    i'm at JHC at RAF Benson for two days this week - i'll see if i can get a Puma jolly..

    fortunately, i've done the 'opening a door' course, and my fastening a seat-belt certificate arrived in the post just before Christmas.

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    Agreed,
    we got a brief on the ground -
    1. Safety brief for all students and instructors on the dangers of rotary aircraft and a talk through of the various drills, landing scenarios, hovering, remembering the danger of rotor disc in relation to landing or hovering near sloped ground etc, ground effect, use of goggles, checking an LZ before heli arrival - we even had a couple of students instructed on how to do this and they actually carried out this role prior to the heli's arrival - marking of the ground with some sort of tell tales to assist the pilots judgement of the ground as they prepared to land (I think!)
    2. static drills conducted first in one of the billets with seating arranged as it would be in the heli,
    3. walk around of the aircraft and various parts which could kill were pointed out, operation of doors, parts of the airframe you can or cannot stand on when embarking or disembarking, told how to approach it, from the 10 and 2 positions to the front of the aircraft whilst the rotors are running, securing of bergans and weapons when on board, seat restraints, hand signals to watch for from the loadmaster and what they meant, the signal for opening the door - given whilst still in flight and then the signal to disembark.
    4. drills on the heli when static , how to get the bergans out and then disembarking of chalk leaders on both sides, then the positions to send troops to the get in all round cover but also so that they were clear of the ground effect where possible, in the end it was pretty much as simple as getting into and out of a transit van, but a lot more fun, and a lot less noisy than the Allouettes.
    AC personnel were very professional and seemed like they enjoyed it, they gunned the heli around the hills quite low and it was an impressive display of its power capability and lift advantages over the AIII's.
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    "He is an enemy officer taken in battle and entitled to fair treatment."
    "No, sir. He's a sergeant, and they don't deserve no respect at all, sir. I should know. They're cunning and artful, if they're any good. I wouldn't mind if he was an officer, sir. But sergeants are clever."

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeV View Post
    Was the year pre-2008?
    See your PMs
    "Well, stone me! We've had cocaine, bribery and Arsenal scoring two goals at home. But just when you thought there were truly no surprises left in football, Vinnie Jones turns out to be an international player!" (Jimmy Greaves)!"

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    "Footage taken during an operation by the Air Corps to airlift materials into Dún Aengus for remedial works. Inishmore is the largest of the Aran Islands in Galway Bay."


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    Those pesky Galtee-onians revolting again?!

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    The little-known but persistent Galtee Organisation for Altitudinal Territorial Secessionism? Yup. Them beardy types are fanatical.
    Last edited by expat01; 20th July 2016 at 12:21.

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    Maybe they're still looking for the Galtee mountain boy?

    Should be easy enough find him these days, he'd be slowing up a bit after 90+ years on the run...........

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    I'm afraid when I think Galtee, I think rashers...
    'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
    'Unselfishly so we might have today!'
    Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
    He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
    http://www.salamanderoasis.org/poems...nnis/luck.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhodes View Post

    Embarrassing really.

    Using a multi million euro state asset to fly a box full of paper to the mainland. I'm sure the job could be accomplished using a boat.

    What a waste.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck View Post
    Embarrassing really.

    Using a multi million euro state asset to fly a box full of paper to the mainland. I'm sure the job could be accomplished using a boat.

    What a waste.
    Yea , they should have used the Naval Service Flag ship .
    Don't spit in my Bouillabaisse .

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    next time, the ballot box will be delivered by drone...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoneToTheCanner View Post
    next time, the ballot box will be delivered by drone...
    Write your own punchline...
    'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
    'Unselfishly so we might have today!'
    Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
    He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
    http://www.salamanderoasis.org/poems...nnis/luck.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flamingo View Post
    Write your own punchline...
    Flamingo sometimes, just sometimes, you do drone on .....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    Flamingo sometimes, just sometimes, you do drone on .....
    I know, I just fly in the face of fashion...
    'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
    'Unselfishly so we might have today!'
    Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
    He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
    http://www.salamanderoasis.org/poems...nnis/luck.html

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    Speaking of RDF. I was part of the first, we were told, time the FCA got to fly in an Alouette. We were fully trained and the whole platoon complete with rifles were deployed in 'sticks' of four. It went perfectly. Afterwards we were told it would never happen again. Glad that wasn't true.

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    I have pics of the pl prior to mine doing deploys from an Alouette in 1986 in Monaghan, it was a jolly after 3 weeks back-to-back border duties so PDF could take some leave .
    "Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "

    "No, they're trying to fly the tank"

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    When I think about how often we, as aptces and airmen, got "jollies" in Alouettes. Four lads getting 20 minutes around the 'drome on a Saturday airtest was normal. I guess we didn't realise how lucky we were until much later.

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