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    Quote Originally Posted by ArdMhacha View Post
    The comments below the article are rediculous, why do people have such a negative attitude towards the DF?
    Same type of people would have disassociated themselves from the Irish soccer team in the past. (They are uncomfortable being Irish). Others are paddy type marxist who's job is to bad mouth all institutions of state on the internet.
    Then there are older people who would have seen guy's in the army in the 50s 60s 70s as having a job with a pension after 21 years and resented them.
    Then there is the provo's crimbo's types who dislike all things that interfere with there money making activities. Also if a army is not "blooded" every now and then
    people lose the reason for it's existence. Irish people have never experienced a real war over Irish soil so no collective fear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArdMhacha View Post
    The comments below the article are rediculous, why do people have such a negative attitude towards the DF?
    Nobody articulates the need/uses of the DF in a proper fashion,short clips of DF activity footage/dreadful music doesnt fill the gap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sofa View Post
    ...................... Irish people have never experienced a real war over Irish soil so no collective fear.
    Really?

    I know they were not on a scale of WWI & WWII etc but we've had the within the last 100 years the 1916 Rising, War of Independence 1919-1921 & let's not forget the dreadful Civil War 1921-1923 on Irish soil not to mention "The Troubles"!

    There's still plenty of "collective fear" here after those.

    Our current Army was even 'born' in this era.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bunny shooter View Post
    Really?

    I know they were not on a scale of WWI & WWII etc but we've had the within the last 100 years the 1916 Rising, War of Independence 1919-1921 & let's not forget the dreadful Civil War 1921-1923 on Irish soil not to mention "The Troubles"!

    There's still plenty of "collective fear" here after those.

    Our current Army was even 'born' in this era.
    The collective fear you are talking about comes mainly from listen to the wolf tones greats hits album

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    Quote Originally Posted by sofa View Post
    The collective fear you are talking about comes mainly from listen to the wolf tones greats hits album
    I'd say that's the sum total of you're knowledge on the subject alright considering your earlier post

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    There's still plenty of "collective fear" here after those.
    as per my normal rants, its those who don't remeber the reality of the past that we have the most to fear from due to their intransigence towards the actions of the terror groups in the past.

    Recent activities and lack of agreement in the North in the last week show high light what Adams quite rightly said some years ago... 'They Haven't gone away....'
    Just visiting

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    Quote Originally Posted by bunny shooter View Post
    Really?

    I know they were not on a scale of WWI & WWII etc but we've had the within the last 100 years the 1916 Rising, War of Independence 1919-1921 & let's not forget the dreadful Civil War 1921-1923 on Irish soil not to mention "The Troubles"!

    There's still plenty of "collective fear" here after those.

    Our current Army was even 'born' in this era.
    All the examples you give above split Irish society, The so called "Emergency" was the only thing I can recall that caused the Irish to close ranks.
    (Nazi collaborators as usual excluded)

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    Quote Originally Posted by hptmurphy View Post
    as per my normal rants, its those who don't remeber the reality of the past that we have the most to fear from due to their intransigence towards the actions of the terror groups in the past.

    Recent activities and lack of agreement in the North in the last week show high light what Adams quite rightly said some years ago... 'They Haven't gone away....'
    And when the present issues are reluctantly resolved in the north, Jaree and the goons will come up with another stunt to start the unionist off again.
    All part of the plan to p£ss everyone off with the Loyalists

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    Quote Originally Posted by sofa View Post
    Jaree and the goons will come up with another stunt to start the unionist off again.
    All part of the plan to p£ss everyone off with the Loyalists
    I think the fleg parading nutters are more than capable of doing this all by themselves, WTF has this collective fear & norn Iron shite got to do with the topic?
    Everyone who's ever loved you was wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The real Jack View Post
    I think the fleg parading nutters are more than capable of doing this all by themselves, WTF has this collective fear & norn Iron shite got to do with the topic?
    You are right an the flag protesters. these nutters can always be depended on.

    Little Counties like Holland and Belgium are allowed to spend a realistic amount on there armed forces, because these counties have being invaded and re-invaded down the years and there population suffered for it, and have not forgotten. They did not have the luxury of being tucked in behind a county with a big military.

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    Apologies for sending this thread way, way off topic, the attitude of what seems to be the majority of our population just seems to have absolutely no time/ respect for us at all and it pisses me off.
    I mean if our fellow irishmen dont even have the time of day for our elite unit what chance does the ordinary Pte walking his beat have!

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    I mean if our fellow irishmen dont even have the time of day for our elite unit what chance does the ordinary Pte walking his beat have
    Its just not an Irish trait, until you have a significant negative event such as the Niemba ambush.

    Ireland just doesn't 'do' live heroes.
    Just visiting

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    In terms of the women issue, you generally do not see too many women serving in frontline special forces units like the SAS, KSK, etc. Though it would be great to see more women attempting selection.

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    The front cover of the next edition of Soldier of Fortune magazine.

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    WTF?
    'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
    'Unselfishly so we might have today!'
    Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
    He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
    http://www.salamanderoasis.org/poems...nnis/luck.html

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    Lovely new photo...
    Everyone who's ever loved you was wrong.

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    Are the cuffs of his shirt / smock turned up?
    Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
    Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
    The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere***
    The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
    The best lack all conviction, while the worst
    Are full of passionate intensity.

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    I sense a complete slippage in journalistic standards coming on.....

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    Since when has SoF ever been considered journalism? Seems to be an excuse to promote gun ownership while at the same time encouraging mild racism.

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    Thats a very old photo, we've seen it here before , eons ago.
    Just visiting

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    Quote Originally Posted by hedgehog View Post
    Are the cuffs of his shirt / smock turned up?
    But of course - it's the SOF look, Hedgie
    As is the accompanying beard
    In fact, 4 or 5 of them rolled into the the dining hall a few weekends abck
    when I happened to be there
    It was like looking at a ZZ Top Fan Club...
    "Well, stone me! We've had cocaine, bribery and Arsenal scoring two goals at home. But just when you thought there were truly no surprises left in football, Vinnie Jones turns out to be an international player!" (Jimmy Greaves)!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truck Driver View Post
    In fact, 4 or 5 of them rolled into the the dining hall a few weekends back
    when I happened to be there
    It was like looking at a ZZ Top Fan Club...
    So that's where Goldie Fish disappeared to ........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truck Driver View Post
    But of course - it's the SOF look, Hedgie
    As is the accompanying beard
    In fact, 4 or 5 of them rolled into the the dining hall a few weekends abck
    when I happened to be there
    It was like looking at a ZZ Top Fan Club...
    Aaa Couple of weeks ago in Dublin spotted a hipsher in DPMs
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    Quote Originally Posted by sofa View Post
    Aaa Couple of weeks ago in Dublin spotted a hipsher in DPMs
    Coulda been Wing, I s'pose...
    "Well, stone me! We've had cocaine, bribery and Arsenal scoring two goals at home. But just when you thought there were truly no surprises left in football, Vinnie Jones turns out to be an international player!" (Jimmy Greaves)!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truck Driver View Post
    Coulda been Wing, I s'pose...
    By the cut of him, he was. without going in to details, persec not good.

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