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    USP Holster

    Looking for a good USP holster. Not interested in a drop leg. So looking at hip mounted options (one with an option to mount onto a vest would be nice). I see a lot of lads with the SERPA but I'm not 100% on it.
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    Protac duty holsters now have MOLLE fittings to mount on vest or belts.Just saying.
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    the protac dropleg one can go on a belt too.
    looks uber Gucci aswell.............
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    There's a lot of anecdotal information about the positioning of the release button on the SERPA leading to NDs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by apod View Post
    Protac duty holsters now have MOLLE fittings to mount on vest or belts.Just saying.
    Yeah I don't like the fold over part of the pouch. As opposed to a thumb break / open ended holster

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    There's a lot of anecdotal information about the positioning of the release button on the SERPA leading to NDs.
    Yeah that's why I'm reluctant to get one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duffman View Post
    Yeah I don't like the fold over part of the pouch. As opposed to a thumb break / open ended holster



    Yeah that's why I'm reluctant to get one.
    I've a SERPA and no problems.. The USP has two safety's so I think you'll be ok.

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    i got a new belt n holster in protac last year major improvement over older ones.
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    Protac only do the issue style belt holster nowadays (dropped in a few weeks ago). The drop leg doesn't fit properly on a belt as it has 2 of the drop leg straps permanently attached so you're left with 2 long straps flapping around. It does however look the mutts mutts. But it looks so Gucci it'd attract attention! Good bit of kit tho.

    Still haven't found an appropriate one at an appropriate price. It also now has me wondering on the best position for wearing a pistol. I've noticed some lads with pistol in cross draw position, eg. Pistol butt facing outwards on left hip. For right handed draw.
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    there's probably an element of where you are wearing pistol going to need to be taken into account, barrack duties, ops, overseas,etc. the first will probably limit choices the others will give a bit more lee-way. is the pistol going on a belt, vest, etc.

    which brings up the question of internal pistol holsters on vests. a bit useless when you think about it. secure but no way you'll get to it quickly. if you do think you'll need it, it's just going to be popped in another pouch, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duffman View Post
    Protac only do the issue style belt holster nowadays (dropped in a few weeks ago). The drop leg doesn't fit properly on a belt as it has 2 of the drop leg straps permanently attached so you're left with 2 long straps flapping around. It does however look the mutts mutts. But it looks so Gucci it'd attract attention! Good bit of kit tho.

    Still haven't found an appropriate one at an appropriate price. It also now has me wondering on the best position for wearing a pistol. I've noticed some lads with pistol in cross draw position, eg. Pistol butt facing outwards on left hip. For right handed draw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duffman View Post
    Protac only do the issue style belt holster nowadays (dropped in a few weeks ago). The drop leg doesn't fit properly on a belt as it has 2 of the drop leg straps permanently attached so you're left with 2 long straps flapping around. It does however look the mutts mutts. But it looks so Gucci it'd attract attention! Good bit of kit tho.

    Still haven't found an appropriate one at an appropriate price. It also now has me wondering on the best position for wearing a pistol. I've noticed some lads with pistol in cross draw position, eg. Pistol butt facing outwards on left hip. For right handed draw.
    **** cross draw. I never understand why people would use it.

    Keep the pistol on your strong side, far more natural movement into a firing position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fridge Magnet View Post
    **** cross draw. I never understand why people would use it.
    Main reason was that in the old days when the issue holster had the spare ammo mag holder built into the holster, it allowed you to draw and have the spare mag near your left hand for reloads. Nowadays the spare mag is supposed to be in a separate mag holder on the left side and the holster on the right. The again, the holster still has a spare mag holder built in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by X-RayOne View Post
    there's probably an element of where you are wearing pistol going to need to be taken into account, barrack duties, ops, overseas,etc. the first will probably limit choices the others will give a bit more lee-way. is the pistol going on a belt, vest, etc.

    which brings up the question of internal pistol holsters on vests. a bit useless when you think about it. secure but no way you'll get to it quickly. if you do think you'll need it, it's just going to be popped in another pouch, etc.
    Yeah in Bks you can't really be walking around with a drop leg or with pistol mounted on vest. But on ops etc there's a place for it.

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    **** cross draw. I never understand why people would use it.

    Keep the pistol on your strong side, far more natural movement into a firing position.
    I don't know enough about pistol usage to pretend to be an expert. But judging from what I've read from the Americans a lot of it comes down to preference. The considerations of an LAPD copper and a Barrack Orderly Sgt are quite different. Cross draw has disadvantages in terms of an opponent blocking draw etc. but has advantages for vehicles etc. where as strong side carry has the advantage as its harder to block.

    From what I have observed the "up and out" method that you need when drawing from the hip can be cumbersome as opposed to the cross draw which feels more natural. But I'm sure with training that will change.

    Now I need to find a Bks friendly holster on the cheap.
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    Don't see why a drop leg around a barracks wouldn't work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bam Bam View Post
    Don't see why a drop leg around a barracks wouldn't work.
    It's "too gucci for duty"
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    Ah so you've been encouraged to go less gucci.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/171008457844

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    Similar to safariland & Serpa but cheaper. They won a big US army contract so it's good stuff.

    http://www.tacticalholsters.com/category/XST.html

    I'd try ringing daniel technology first though and ask them if they have any safarilands for the USP that they'd sell you. They're the agents for them here I believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by madden View Post
    Main reason was that in the old days when the issue holster had the spare ammo mag holder built into the holster, it allowed you to draw and have the spare mag near your left hand for reloads.
    in the old, old days the holster was made of canvas with a simple flap and buckle.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bam Bam View Post
    Don't see why a drop leg around a barracks wouldn't work.
    it would work as well as the drop kick the BSM would issue you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duffman View Post
    It's "too gucci for duty"
    It's not practicable for duty.. It's a tactical holster designed to be lower on the leg to accommodate body amour/ battle vest.

    I wore an issue drop leg over seas and it was a pain in the arse... I now wear a belt holster ..If I wear my battle order I mount the holster on the battle vest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by x-rayone View Post
    .... It would work as well as the drop kick the bsm would issue you:-d
    lmfao... :-d
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    I wear a Protac belt holster(strong side) and a protac ammo pouch on my weak side when on duty.Old viper dropleg when I wear my CEFO.Issue dropleg has the same problems as the issue dump pouch and respirator haversack.Impractical buckles on the leg straps(easily fixed).Also the issue dropleg has no thumbreak on the retention strap.I have been informed that the duties in a certain border Bks wear dropleg holsters as standard.
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