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  • Originally posted by Truck Driver View Post
    Of course even the IVECO Ord wagons are being gradually replaced by Scanias...

    what iveco,s TD??

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    • Originally posted by kaiser View Post
      There's no EOD tranny .
      there's a few work shop trannies used by ordnance , crew cabs and normal van types.
      Maybe they have got of it/them since

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      • Good spot dev that vehicle was belonging to robot workshops OBW
        I think it might have seen service in kfor from 28 inf group on.
        It was handy to lug kit around but when scaling down from a truck to 4x4 or van the problem is what to take what to leave.
        Side note there was an eod mowag for a short amount of time

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        • Originally posted by kaiser View Post
          what iveco,s TD??
          Probably the ones with the tail lifts.
          Like the Merc and Scania 6x6.

          I thought they were ordinance trucks as opposed to EOD trucks.

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          • The big armoured trucks are Man hx60,s they are for EOD overseas .

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            • Originally posted by paul g View Post
              This obsession with cit is funny, with emerging card and mobile technology there will be fewer cash duties in the years to come.
              It will take a long time

              Banks have been looking to move away from cash for years
              As long as there is a black economy, welfare, OAPs, mattresses, pocket money, parking meters there will be cash

              Banks are now charging per debit card transaction (it they go to all epay they will start to charge for internet banking).

              If your going for a few pints, do you go to the ATM or use the card?
              Does the pub take cards (they have to pay for the machine)

              How does the money get to the branch and the ATM?
              How does the welfare money get to the PO?

              This whole SEPA thing was suppose to make payments faster? It used to take up to 3 days, it now takes up to 5 (that that is from account to another with the same bank !!). Why? I think Because you money is having a little rest in the banks account (earning them interest) for a day or two

              Be under no illusion, there is a very credible threat to CITs. If CIT escorts were taken away tomorrow there would be a huge increase in robberies.

              By the way, the vehicle isn't just doing CIT, that is only one ATCP task:
              - prisoner escorts
              - EOD callouts
              - Explosives escorts
              - various patrols & rotations

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              • I'm actually inclined to agree with RGJ, to a point. As long as the dissidents and the almost-but-not-quite-gone-away IRA (fuel smugglers 'r' us ) continue to exist, then there is a need for something a bit more bulletproof than a Transit to keep nasties out, just in case some toerag decides to chance it.

                regards
                GttC

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                • Lads doing CIT in it's present form are sitting ducks. Steamed up windows, squashed in like mushy peas. heater on. not knowing what's a head or what's following,

                  a transit bingo bus would give a bit more room but not add one bit to doing the job correctly. Don't know why they have not being hit up yet.

                  RGJ knows what he is talking about on this one.
                  Last edited by sofa; 14 June 2014, 01:25.

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                  • Originally posted by sofa View Post
                    Lads doing CIT in it's present form are sitting ducks. Steamed up windows, squashed in like mushy peas. heater on. not knowing what's a head or what's following
                    The CIT will be doing more than 10mph a lot of the time.

                    So Snatch would be better because it doesn't have any windows to the side (you could get vision blocks but someone is going to have to get out of their seat and stand up at 100 kph on the dual carriageway) or to the rear (same argument or leaving the door open.

                    Situation awareness in Snatch is limited to the driver and front seat, the top cover (are you going to put someone standing up in a hatch with the rear door open doing 100 kph?

                    Or and it's max speed is 97 kph

                    We sell ex MOD Land Rovers, Military Vehicles, Earth Moving Plant in our online auctions, tenders and sales.

                    And armoured SUV or LTAV maybe but not Snatch
                    Last edited by DeV; 14 June 2014, 08:20.

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                    • Originally posted by paul g View Post
                      This obsession with cit is funny, with emerging card and mobile technology there will be fewer cash duties in the years to come.
                      True, but a survey published recently revealed that Ireland is the most cash dependent Country in the Eurozone. No matter what technology is brought it a large proportion of people still want to feel cold, hard, cash in their hands. And recent events have not reinforced our trust of banks, while the Nixer economy will always have the better cash price.
                      CRIME SCENE INSTIGATOR

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                      • Originally posted by paul g View Post
                        This obsession with cit is funny, with emerging card and mobile technology there will be fewer cash duties in the years to come.

                        This g wagon obsession is also really puzzling, what people are forgetting is that G wagons and landrovers were essentially found out during the skirmishes in iraq and afghanistan, and are rarely used anymore outside of bases.

                        And if you look at armies like the Dutch who have a large fleet of g wagons, they're in the process of introducing civilian amarok crew cabs to replace them to save money that they can put towards protected light vehicles for overseas duties.
                        What you seem to be forgetting Paul is were talking about the Irish Army here mate.

                        Afghanistan, Iraq. Long fukcing way from Kilrush, Skibbereen, Galway, Dublin,,,,,,. Last time the DF fought a war it was called the civil war. Not too far off 100 years ago now.

                        Considering its 2014 and draw-down is well underway and the Canadian's pretty much all went home in March there's no one left in country to drive them. Only Brits in KAF are the bean stealers and some RAF Reg types wearing every piece of kit they have ever been issued cutting about in WIMIK's fighting their way to the front of the Q at Tim Hortons. Take a trip down the green zone (not a euphemism for the Green Bean Coffee shop either) there's plenty about.

                        Killed in Afghanistan
                        USA: 2,178
                        UK: 453
                        Canada: 158
                        France: 86
                        Germany: 54
                        Italy: 48
                        Denmark: 43
                        Poland: 43
                        Australia: 40
                        Spain: 34
                        Georgia: 29
                        Netherlands: 25
                        Romania: 23
                        Turkey: 14
                        New Zealand: 11
                        Norway: 10
                        Estonia: 9
                        Hungary: 7
                        Sweden: 5
                        Czech Republic: 5
                        Latvia: 3
                        Slovakia: 3
                        Finland: 2
                        Jordan: 2
                        Portugal: 2
                        South Korea: 1
                        Albania: 1
                        Belgium: 1
                        Lithuania: 1
                        Montenegro: 1

                        TOTAL: 3,435

                        Killed in Iraq
                        USA: 4,487
                        UK: 179
                        Italy: 33
                        Poland: 23
                        Ukraine: 18
                        Bulgaria: 13
                        Spain: 11
                        Denmark: 7
                        El Salvador: 5
                        Georgia: 5
                        Slovakia: 4
                        Latvia: 3
                        Romania: 3
                        Australia: 2
                        Estonia: 2
                        Netherlands: 2
                        Thailand: 2
                        Azerbaijan: 1
                        Czech Republic: 1
                        Fiji: 1
                        Hungary: 1
                        Kazakhstan: 1
                        South Korea: 1

                        TOTAL: 4,804

                        Overall Total: 8,239 (number only includes those killed as result of enemy action, actual KIA).

                        That's pretty much the entire Irish army wiped out in a decade to put it in perspective. One hell of a skirmish.
                        Last edited by FMP; 14 June 2014, 21:21.
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                        • Originally posted by DeV View Post
                          The CIT will be doing more than 10mph a lot of the time.

                          So Snatch would be better because it doesn't have any windows to the side (you could get vision blocks but someone is going to have to get out of their seat and stand up at 100 kph on the dual carriageway) or to the rear (same argument or leaving the door open.

                          Situation awareness in Snatch is limited to the driver and front seat, the top cover (are you going to put someone standing up in a hatch with the rear door open doing 100 kph?

                          Or and it's max speed is 97 kph

                          We sell ex MOD Land Rovers, Military Vehicles, Earth Moving Plant in our online auctions, tenders and sales.

                          And armoured SUV or LTAV maybe but not Snatch
                          I do not know what the answer is, but I feel they are too vulnerable in the 4x4s at present.

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                          • Originally posted by sofa View Post
                            I do not know what the answer is, but I feel they are too vulnerable in the 4x4s at present.
                            If in Snatch, risk of falling out the back/top is greater

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                            • Originally posted by kaiser View Post
                              what iveco,s TD??
                              Tall sided thing, with a sort of DPM paint scheme on the box. At least I thought it was an Iveco
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                              • Originally posted by Truck Driver View Post
                                Tall sided thing, with a sort of DPM paint scheme on the box. At least I thought it was an Iveco
                                there made by mowag their burscher duros they had technical problems I believe due to the axles I think there making a come back soon

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