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    what gets me is that no European country appears capable of achieving true commonality for even simple vehicles such as these.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoneToTheCanner View Post
    what gets me is that no European country appears capable of achieving true commonality for even simple vehicles such as these.
    The G wagon is the only show in town in that regards. Most European militarys operate them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The real Jack View Post
    The G wagon is the only show in town in that regards. Most European militarys operate them.
    To some degree

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    Oshkosh just won JLTV contract to replace the Humvee
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    the Landy is supposed to be the epitome of commonality but militaries cant seem to refrain from gold-plating them.

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    Presidential ACMAT
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    Love the ACMAT. Still think we should invest in the Panhard PVP with WASP RWS [on some] as replacement for some Pajeros, especially with a hard Brexit border coming down the road. Great little vehicles , loads of room unlike the current SUVs, and great along the 'back roads'.
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    I think the reason for vehicles like Pajero in the first place as atcp. Canvas tilt land rover weren't suitable for long distance cit or prison escort. However it appears that the Ford ranger is doing much of the liaison work once done by the patrol or pajero. So it's time to return to a military type all terrain car. Not necessarily armoured. Not even armed. Just a baseline all terrain vehicle that can carry at least 4 fully equipped troops from a to b at home or overseas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by na grohmití View Post
    I think the reason for vehicles like Pajero in the first place as atcp. Canvas tilt land rover weren't suitable for long distance cit or prison escort. However it appears that the Ford ranger is doing much of the liaison work once done by the patrol or pajero. So it's time to return to a military type all terrain car. Not necessarily armoured. Not even armed. Just a baseline all terrain vehicle that can carry at least 4 fully equipped troops from a to b at home or overseas.
    Is that too much to ask?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarsfield View Post
    Love the ACMAT. Still think we should invest in the Panhard PVP with WASP RWS [on some] as replacement for some Pajeros, especially with a hard Brexit border coming down the road. Great little vehicles , loads of room unlike the current SUVs, and great along the 'back roads'.
    http://www.armyrecognition.com/image...dustry_001.jpg

    Looks rather like the current LTAV in service
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truck Driver View Post
    Looks rather like the current LTAV in service
    Just costs less, is about half the weight and has over 1000 models in service, so is not a bespoke vehicle, so there might be less issues.
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    I seem to recall quite differing opinions about the Acmat when the DF had them; some people loved them, others hated them and some of that dislike was down to simple snobbery; ie, that lot have them and we don't,etc,etc.......does anyone know? are they any good?

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    Well the drivers cab in a lot of cases was a soft top roof designed for Africa (not typical Irish weather) that could have had something to do with it

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    we still have acmats dont we or am I mixing it up with the Unimog
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    Quote Originally Posted by trellheim View Post
    we still have acmats dont we or am I mixing it up with the Unimog
    Didnt the ARW recently acquire a few as logistical support

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    Another option would be the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LAPV_Enok, no?

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    "Unit cost ~$760,000" versus whatever we bought each Pajero for

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    Panhard PVP currently retails at 167,000 Euro... not too shabby.
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    but were they any good mechanically?

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    They have served the French well across Mali, Niger and Chad. They proved very effective in the narrow streets of Iraqi and Afghani towns where larger, albeit better armoured, MRAPS couldn't manoeuvre. They have proved themselves in combat and mechanically across very inhospitable terrain and climates. The French ordered another 240 recently.

    Only a suggestion. They may not be suitable for our needs but no harm in testing them.
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    Sorry for the off topic, and I'll understand if no one wants to answer but does anyone know what the Vamtac ST5 was doing outside Galway last Tuesday?

    It was similar to this but with a flat bed rear section.
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    The DF is going "white" / "green" fleet :(

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeV View Post
    The DF is going "white" / "green" fleet :(
    Lol that's a change to our white fleet that's painted green, our green fleet would be the man sv wreckers, the merc trucks and a few others!
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    Transits, Hyundais etc are white fleet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocinante View Post
    Sorry for the off topic, and I'll understand if no one wants to answer but does anyone know what the Vamtac ST5 was doing outside Galway last Tuesday?

    It was similar to this but with a flat bed rear section.
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    Didnt we have a couple of these on trial a few years ago?

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