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    Great news, it's about time not only for recognition but also this type of award.

    We are delighted to announce that Minister of State at Defence, Paul Kehoe has authorised the creation of the award of Presidential Unit Citation for the men of A Company who fought at Jadotville. This is a form of military honour awarded to a military unit rather than an individual who acquits themselves in combat against greater odds by demonstrating valour and pruofessionalism of a high order and providing service well beyond the call of duty. Minister Kehoe is to be commended for his compassion and good sense in handling of this matter. Also, Kevin 'Boxer' Moran TD has given assistance of a high order in his tenacity in putting forth the case before the Minister. Leo Quinlan, son of Comdt Pat Quinlan and John Gorman of the Jadotville veteran's assoc have been unstinting in their support and action in making this unprecedented and unique military honour come about. This will mark a new chapter in Defence Forces history as there has never been such an award before in the history of the state.
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    From the siege of Jadotivelle FB page.
    Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
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    I have always considered such an award something that the defence forces here lacked. Delighted that someone has seen fit to create one.
    Perhaps it will move away from a commanding officer of a unit getting decorated for the actions of his unit. When said person retires, the award goes with him, though many of the unit involved in the action remain.

    The film should be appearing on Netflix shortly I understand.
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    I looked today - it's not out yet.

    "The Siege of Jadotville" on Netflix
    https://www.netflix.com/title/80041653?s=i
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    Due to be screened tonight in Galway
    Time for another break I think......

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    I think I saw July 17th mentioned as the airing date.

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    Was this all but in name a clash between Ireland and Belgium.

    While on the subject of Belgium, Anyone remember the outcome when the belgiums put a provo priest in the back of a C130 with a hand full of troops to fly him back to Ireland whether we liked it or not.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sofa View Post
    Was this all but in name a clash between Ireland and Belgium.

    While on the subject of Belgium, Anyone remember the outcome when the belgiums put a provo priest in the back of a C130 with a hand full of troops to fly him back to Ireland whether we liked it or not.?
    Was he not a peado priest?? or am I mixing up my devoted saintly scumbags?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turkey View Post
    Was he not a peado priest?? or am I mixing up my devoted saintly scumbags?
    I thought he was a provo sympathiser? from Tipp? can't recall the name, but there was a big to do about him back in the late 80's...

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    Irish Congo war heroism will be finally recognised

    'Fifty Shades' actor Jamie Dornan stars in film about real-life 1961 siege in Belgian Congo
    The Irish Army heroes of one of the most successful defence actions in modern military history are to receive a special bravery award, the Sunday Independent can reveal.

    The 150 soldiers, who in 1961 fought off 3,000 Congolese rebels and mercenaries backed by artillery and fighter jets, are the subject of a new Netflix movie, Jadotville, which premiered in Galway Town Hall theatre last night.


    Fifty Shades of Grey star Jamie Dornan, 34, who is from Holywood, Co Down, plays the lead role of Cmdt Pat Quinlan, who led his men through the siege, emerging with only four wounded - compared with 300 dead and 700 wounded on the other side.

    The special unit citation for bravery is to be awarded to survivors and families of the soldiers at a special ceremony to mark the 55th anniversary in September.


    The news of the citation, which many soldiers felt should have been made decades ago, was given last night by the son of Cmdt Quinlan, Leo Quinlan, who also served as a commandant in the Army.

    And, in another twist surrounding the forthcoming movie release, Cmdt Quinlan's son, Conor, the grandson of Pat Quinlan, also acts in the movie as one of the Irish UN soldiers in the siege.


    The Irish action at Jadotville was never officially recognised by the government or Defence Forces, despite the extraordinary bravery and skill that saw the unit survive overwhelming odds.

    The Irish Jadotville action is placed alongside other historical sieges such as the British Army's defence at Rorke's Drift in the Anglo-Zulu war in 1879, in which all 150 soldiers were eventually killed while fighting a force of between 3,000 and 4,000 strong. This event was commemorated with 11 Victoria Crosses.


    Jadotville is also mentioned alongside the stand of the American revolutionaries at the Alamo in 1836, in which all were killed by an enormously larger Mexican force.

    The Irish action, while little remembered here, has become a text-book study for young officers around the world.


    The soldiers were serving with the UN mission in the former Belgian colony during the bloody transitionary period when they were surrounded by 3,000 to 5,000 Luba warriors with support from regular French, Belgian and Rhodesian mercenaries. The attacking force also had heavy artillery and Fouga fighter jets which strafed and bombed the Irish position.

    The Irish soldiers, who had only light arms and mortars, held out for six days, inflicting heavy casualties on the attackers before surrendering after running out of ammunition.


    One of the last radio messages from the besieged soldiers before their surrender includes a line that has gone into Irish military history. It is said to have been: "We will hold out until our last bullet is spent. Could do with some whiskey."

    The Irish action at Jadotville was the subject of two books by Cmdt Leo Quinlan along with author Rose Doyle, and former Army Corporal Declan Power.


    The movie release on Netflix is set for September.

    Sunday Independent

    http://www.independent.ie/entertainm...-34870716.html
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    Another piece of inaccurate historical reporting - the journo obviously never saw the film Zulu

    Irish Jadotville action is placed alongside other historical sieges such as the British Army's defence at Rorke's Drift in the Anglo-Zulu war in 1879, in which all 150 soldiers were eventually killed while fighting a force of between 3,000 and 4,000 strong. This event was commemorated with 11 Victoria Crosses.
    Somebody getting Rorkes Drift and The Alamo mixed up, I think...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flamingo View Post
    Another piece of inaccurate historical reporting - the journo obviously never saw the film Zulu
    Jim Cusack wrote it so you know its bullshit.

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    Today FM is going to be talking about Jadotville after 11 this morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flamingo View Post
    Another piece of inaccurate historical reporting - the journo obviously never saw the film Zulu


    Somebody getting Rorkes Drift and The Alamo mixed up, I think...
    Maybe he saw Zulu Dawn and is getting Rorkes Drift confussed with the Battle of Isandlwana.
    Well, government doesn't stop just because the country's been destroyed! I mean, annihilation’s bad enough without anarchy to make things even worse!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CTU View Post
    Maybe he saw Zulu Dawn and is getting Rorkes Drift confussed with the Battle of Isandlwana.
    Or "Little Big Horn", where John Wayne was shot by Billy the Kid?
    'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
    'Unselfishly so we might have today!'
    Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
    He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
    http://www.salamanderoasis.org/poems...nnis/luck.html

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    Was Declan Power not an officer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeV View Post
    Was Declan Power not an officer?
    Yes, another Jim Cusack mistake.

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    What rank was Declan. Great book by the way and a sound lad unlike that twat cluelessnan.
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    Declan Power was a captain was he not?
    Im Ron Burgendy??

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    Quote Originally Posted by hptmurphy View Post
    Due for release on netflix of July 9th I'm led to believe.
    Are those Three Stars on his brassard?

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    Yesterday at 12:51 ·
    We are delighted to announce that Minister of State at Defence, Paul Kehoe has authorised the creation of the award of Presidential Unit Citation for the men of A Company who fought at Jadotville. This is a form of military honour awarded to a military unit rather than an individual who acquits themselves in combat against greater odds by demonstrating valour and professionalism of a high order and providing service well beyond the call of duty. Minister Kehoe is to be commended for his compassion and good sense in handling of this matter. Also, Kevin 'Boxer' Moran TD has given assistance of a high order in his tenacity in putting forth the case before the Minister. Leo Quinlan, son of Comdt Pat Quinlan and John Gorman of the Jadotville veteran's assoc have been unstinting in their support and action in making this unprecedented and unique military honour come about. This will mark a new chapter in Defence Forces history as there has never been such an award before in the history of the state.
    "We will hold out until our last bullet is spent. Could do with some whiskey"
    Radio transmission, siege of Jadotville DR Congo. September 1961.
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    "The story behind Jamie Dornan's new movie
    Show: Neil Delamere's Sunday Best
    Declan Power joins Neil to talk about writing the book that inspired Jamie Dornan's new film 'The Siege of Jadotville'."

    http://www.todayfm.com/player/podcas...nans_new_movie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herald View Post
    I thought he was a provo sympathiser? from Tipp? can't recall the name, but there was a big to do about him back in the late 80's...
    Fr Paddy Ryan
    Time for another break I think......

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    Quote Originally Posted by hptmurphy View Post
    Fr Paddy Ryan
    Thats him!! I think Margaret thatcher buggered up any chance the extradition proceedings from Ireland might proceed.
    As far as I can recall, he ran in the European elections at some stage, didn't get elected, but got a large enough vote in Munster all the same.

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