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  • #16
    They are looking at the gaberdine material as used in the new greatcoats
    "Let us be clear about three facts. First, all battles and all wars are won in the end by the infantryman. Secondly, the infantryman always bears the brunt. His casualties are heavier, he suffers greater extremes of discomfort and fatigue than the other arms. Thirdly, the art of the infantryman is less stereotyped and far harder to acquire in modern war than that of any other arm." ------- Field Marshall Wavell, April 1945.

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    • #17
      Keep the bandolier, get rid of white belts, slouch hats, yes, nice dark green yes and the stand collar
      Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe

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      • #18
        ha ha ha ha ha ... only way to look cool in dark green!

        "He is an enemy officer taken in battle and entitled to fair treatment."
        "No, sir. He's a sergeant, and they don't deserve no respect at all, sir. I should know. They're cunning and artful, if they're any good. I wouldn't mind if he was an officer, sir. But sergeants are clever."

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        • #19
          Having seen the options, I'd be happy with the stand collar.

          By no means perfect but better than the other two options and has a really old school look which I reckon will look the part come 2016 when the commemorations kick off.

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          • #20
            Personally I think they look cat..

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            • #21
              The stand collar looks great (it'll probably be quite uncomfortable). The clip on tie would be very handy as opposed to that horrific yoke that we currently have. The flap that happens before an inspection when someones knot comes undone is always monumental.
              "Many a time a man's mouth broke his nose"

              "Don't waste money buying expensive binoculars. Simply stand next to the object you wish to view."

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              • #22
                stand collar, slouch hats and superfines for all.
                It is only by contemplation of the incompetent that we can appreciate the difficulties and accomplishments of the competent.

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                • #23
                  Any chance of pics of the options on offer...doubtful I know, but would be interested in seeing them.
                  What are you cackling at, fatty? Too much pie, that's your problem.

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                  • #24
                    If that high collar, with a normal collar over it happens I may just retire....
                    Sir I cant find my peltors........Private they are on your face

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                    • #25
                      Surely if you have a stand collar you no longer need the cream shirt and collar? Standard issue T shirt worn underneath?
                      For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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                      • #26
                        In an ideal, sensible world yes....but this is the army! so no!

                        in all seriousness though, stand collars would be a huge improvement. They always look smarter and more uniform when in a group.

                        i'd second a better material too. superfine's would be great if possible. again for uniformity overall. and i would keep the colour. it is after all the historical colour (or as close as) as the Irish Volunteers.

                        two things I'd suggest though would be different colured patches behind beret cap badge (have said this already some other thread) to identify corps. more relevant now day to day with DPM. and then on the SD trousers a thin strip the same colour running down the leg. in SD 1s individual units are identified by flashes and lanyards but Corps only by collar badges. it would add a little colour to the uniform without being too over the top. the Cav presidential escort has shown a little what it could be like with the red trim on their tunics.
                        An army is power. Its entire purpose is to coerce others. This power can not be used carelessly or recklessly. This power can do great harm. We have seen more suffering than any man should ever see, and if there is going to be an end to it, it must be an end that justifies the cost. Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by FMP View Post
                          While I am very bias I do believe the Royal Irish No 1 in piper green fits the bill to a T .

                          Good old LI and RGJ's have something similar.

                          Please don't go peaked hats!!!! Shite looking unless your in the Guards Reg and you slash the peak.


                          Somehow i dont think any Irish soldier wants to look like a Brithish soldier!!!!!!!!!

                          An Irish uniform should be distinctly Irish. Peaked hats are a tradition going back to the founding of the National army in 1921.

                          The present uniform just updated to a better material, including that wierd tie... would be the best option IMO

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by X-RayOne View Post
                            In an ideal, sensible world yes....but this is the army! so no!

                            in all seriousness though, stand collars would be a huge improvement. They always look smarter and more uniform when in a group.

                            i'd second a better material too. superfine's would be great if possible. again for uniformity overall. and i would keep the colour. it is after all the historical colour (or as close as) as the Irish Volunteers.

                            two things I'd suggest though would be different colured patches behind beret cap badge (have said this already some other thread) to identify corps. more relevant now day to day with DPM. and then on the SD trousers a thin strip the same colour running down the leg. in SD 1s individual units are identified by flashes and lanyards but Corps only by collar badges. it would add a little colour to the uniform without being too over the top. the Cav presidential escort has shown a little what it could be like with the red trim on their tunics.
                            Is that a good use of taxpayers money?

                            It is hard enough to get kit anyway imagine what it would be like for a smaller corps eg a combat service support corps, most would probably have less than 300 personnel in the corps

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                            • #29
                              A set of superfines cost in the region of €1k, so you can rule them out straight away.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by DeV View Post
                                Is that a good use of taxpayers money?

                                It is hard enough to get kit anyway imagine what it would be like for a smaller corps eg a combat service support corps, most would probably have less than 300 personnel in the corps
                                I doubt a couple of hundred different coloured felt squares for berets would break the DF budget.....probably wouldn't cost as much as the extra Defence Forces Ireland patches that weren't needed, or the large tri-colours that replaced the perfectly servicable small tri-colours, or the red and gold general staff rank markers that replaced the subdued DPM compatible general staff rank markers

                                somebody asked for suggestions how to improve/change SDs.....it's nice to dream. we've being doing it on the hover tank thread for years
                                An army is power. Its entire purpose is to coerce others. This power can not be used carelessly or recklessly. This power can do great harm. We have seen more suffering than any man should ever see, and if there is going to be an end to it, it must be an end that justifies the cost. Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain

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