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  • Warthog didn't say it was a MAG, he just said it was 7.62, which the chain gun is.....

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    • indeed,the co-ax on the warrior is a 7.62 chaingun which seemed to jam alot,so they would return fire using minimi's from the mortar hatches or the commanders hatch,this seems really dangerous to me,and the ability to use a RWS would be great for quickly engaging the enemy to the rear or if they tried to outflank the patrol from the sides without having to traverse the turret,also if the gunner was manning the co-ax the commander could use the RWS so they could engage two targets at once,
      i've seen these fitted to HMMV'S and other soft tops,surely if they could take the weight then a scorpion could?

      is the 90mm turret any bigger than the one for the 76mm?

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      • Looks like the Scorpions are history anyway, they've never been deployed overseas and there's no sign of an upgrade.

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        • Originally posted by Goldie fish View Post
          Two words: Top Heavy.

          The Scorpion is a small vehicle, and would be under severe pressure to fit an RWS, and its associated electronics anywhere on the turret without deleting a crew member.
          In fairness, if you look at the electronics upgrades that the British have managed to squeeze into the Scimitars in the last couple of years, it's not beyond the realms of possibility. Granted, the Scimitars are now absolutely cramped, but they've done it.

          NTM
          Driver, tracks, troops.... Drive and adjust!!

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          • Originally posted by easyrider View Post
            Looks like the Scorpions are history anyway, they've never been deployed overseas and there's no sign of an upgrade.
            Tha's partly true, but they do provide a valuable training tool, and have, with an upgrade, about ten years life left in them

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            • "At the moment the Cavalry Corps has one of its Scorpions on a pilot upgrade project."

              An Cosantoir March 2008

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              • That's interesting. Anyone know what sort of upgrade?

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                • Engine. Dieselisation.


                  Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                  • it also said that the were looking for a fire support vehicle (fsv) would this be the mowag 105 or something similar

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                    • See lengthy thread titled "AFV armament, and keep on topic.


                      Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                      • Upgade was completed last summer,Steyr marine diesel engine and new diehl tracks.Being tested at the moment.

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                        • So it's just the bare minimum to maintain the status quo? No change to comms, sensors, armour, weapons?

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                          • The FSV would be at least 90mm.

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                            • Just to see if dieselisation would work.There isn't the money or the will from higher ranks to upgrade the fleet.This upgrade was sort of on the sly at first I'm led to believe.There is no point just doing engines but there is no money to do engine and turret.
                              I heard a quote from a few years back of €6mil to upgrade whole fleet,engine,turret,the whole lot.€3mil of that was for optics.

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                              • Is there a place for the scorpions in the DF?

                                as they dont really fufill any role, on paper they do,but would it not make sense to send them overseas?

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