L.E. James Joyce P62

[A/TEL]

Bidford Buzz Website

"Information received from Capt. Hoad, Bideford Harbour master, that the second vessel for the Irish Navy the LE James Joyce is due to leave the building shed on the 23rd November. (High water is at 18.15)"

http://bidefordbuzz.org.uk/2014/09/shipping-news-no-116-august-september-2014/

[ODIN]

Get P63 out as soon as possible so we can stop naming vessels after authors!!!

[na grohmiti]

This should mean Keel laying of P63 (as yet no name heard) will be the day after.

Couldn't come soon enough.

[ODIN]

So does this mean that a replacement for P31 will be on the cards in the near future? An EPV perhaps?

[Toolbox]

The P31 is going no where for the considerable future.

When they fix the current engineering issue, she'll be good for another 10 years if they wanted.

I would not be surprised to see another p60 class vessel after p63.

The white paper will tell a lot.

[tomh903]

A fourth P60 would be good but a bit boring. With the economy bouncing back, there's a decent chance the Government might see the need to invest in an EPV within 10 years.

[Toolbox]

Never mind boring!

Think expansion!

A fourth P60 class puts the flotilla to 9!

Hopefully the white paper will place all state sea going assets under naval control, than would make the custom cutters 10 & 11.

Eithne, Orla and Ciara have had millions poured into them, it would be madness to get rid of them in anything less than 5-6 years.

Hopefully more like 10!

The naval service needs more hulls, more men, more kit and better pay!

[ODIN]

I am all for more than the standing number of 8 ships, but showing the government that the 30 year rule can be bent is a risky precedent, it could mean that in the future, they will look for 35-40 year lifetimes for Naval Service vessels

[DeV]

Under the new 35 year rule:

Eithne replacement due 2019
Ciara and Orla replacements due 2023

[ODIN]

I must have missed the press release on the 35 year rule.

[Turkey]

I must have missed the press release on th 35 year rule.

same here...

[Toolbox]

That "35 year rule" is a rule of thumb.

If you throw enough money into the grey hole in the ocean which is your average patrol vessel you can cut out the worn out bits and weld in new bits and sail on.

Ciara, Orla and Eithne have had such large amount of fresh plate in their hulls you could argue to have them renamed at this stage of the game.

But as this is the naval service never say never if a big EPV was a possibility then lord only knows.

[na grohmiti]

Its worth remembering that while the peacocks may be of certain age, they were harbour launches for the early years of service in Hong Kong, and have spent their irish service sheltering from the worst of weathers. As a result, while they are mechanically able, they will serve longer than the P20s.

The EPV concept is still a wise plan to encourage the DoD to deploy the NS overseas, where possible.

[DeV]

It was mentioned regarding LE Samuel Beckett and in a press release

[ODIN]

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