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    lowe alpine pistol holster

    Hi all!
    In the last few years since the battle vests came out I've seen a variety of pistol holsters in use. Can anyone shed any light on which is correct? Or better yet, post some pictures of it?? Cheers. Bfg.
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    I think that the actual issue holster is made by protac but SERPA and Kydex holsters are becoming popular amongst those who actually want to soldier.

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    Cheers fm. I've a serpa for my beretta 92 and its a good holster. I got a look at the pamphlet that comes with the battle vest and it shows a thigh holster as an optional extra.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boforgunner View Post
    Hi all!
    In the last few years since the battle vests came out I've seen a variety of pistol holsters in use. Can anyone shed any light on which is correct? Or better yet, post some pictures of it?? Cheers. Bfg.
    There is a battlevest holster that is worn in the same manner as the respirator and dump pouches. It attaches to the inner belt by a single web strap and clip with a another strap around the thigh. A web strap with a snap button holds the pistol in the holster and a spare magazine pouch is on the front with velcro closing. It can also be worn on its own with out the battlevest attached to any belt. The belt strap is small enough to allow it to fit through molle webbing so it can be rigged to be worn on the chest if wanted, it wasn't designed to do so but can be done.
    They are rarely worn or even seen as most people buy their own holster, there most be hundreds of them in stores never used.

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    Are they not used because there shite? Or not issued out? Any pics?
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    Quote Originally Posted by boforgunner View Post
    Are they not used because there shite? Or not issued out? Any pics?
    Most people who need a holster have their own, very few would need to wear a holster with their battlevest anyway.

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    The holster Rhodes described is made by Lowe Alpine.They are usually only issued to our overseas units.They are not really liked as the leg strap uses a buckle to close as opposed to a fastex clip and also they lack a thumb break retention system so re-holstering the pistol single handed is difficult. Safariland holsters are on issue to the ARW the MP's our ISAF contingent and even the Air corps heli crews now I believe( open to correction on the last group).The issue duty holster is made by Protac.
    I will try and upload some photos of the LA holster in use later.
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    Cheers apod. I use the blackhawk serpa for IPSC with the Beretta. I'm starting to take more interest in the pistol since I've had time to practice myself. Practice is something we don't get outside of ARPS. I found a few weeks of professional coaching made all the difference. I'll look into a serpa USP holster for range
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    Here is a pic of the holster in question.
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    "Let us be clear about three facts:First of all.All battles and all wars are won in the end by the Infantryman.Secondly the Infantryman bears the brunt of the fighting,his casualties are heavier and he suffers greater extremes of fatigue and discomfort than the other arms.Thirdly,the art of the Infantryman is less stereotyped and harder to acquire than that of any other arm".
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    Same holster but mounted on the battlevest front.
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    "Let us be clear about three facts:First of all.All battles and all wars are won in the end by the Infantryman.Secondly the Infantryman bears the brunt of the fighting,his casualties are heavier and he suffers greater extremes of fatigue and discomfort than the other arms.Thirdly,the art of the Infantryman is less stereotyped and harder to acquire than that of any other arm".
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    i've never understood the point of putting spare mag pouches on the holster itself. there are loads of versions and brands out there doing it.

    problem for me is that if holster is on your strong side and pistol in your hand its an awkward move to have to reach across body to change mag. its much more natural movement to have pistol in strong hand and spare mag on weak side just as you would change rifle mag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by X-RayOne View Post
    i've never understood the point of putting spare mag pouches on the holster itself. there are loads of versions and brands out there doing it.

    problem for me is that if holster is on your strong side and pistol in your hand its an awkward move to have to reach across body to change mag. its much more natural movement to have pistol in strong hand and spare mag on weak side just as you would change rifle mag.
    It made sense if the holster was drawn from the opposite side, as was the fashion, for a time. Then the spare mag is on the spare hand side, and the correct hand for changing.

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    ve never understood the point of putting spare mag pouches on the holster itself.
    hangover from the '58 pattern holster.

    It made sense if the holster was drawn from the opposite side, as was the fashion, for a time. Then the spare mag is on the spare hand side, and the correct hand for changing
    the Holsters in use from eons ago, demanded that the weapon be drawn by the strong hand whole the weaker hander would open the fastners.

    It was reckoned that the weaker hand would impeded the aim thus drawing across the body meant the weaker hand wouldn't impede taking an aim.

    Bear in mind that as longs as pistols are around, they only actually went on issue in the course of WW1 where swords were still the prefered option, and as a result the thought behind pistol shooting was that akin to dueling with very little practical thought given to use. Its a bit like a bayonet, looks better than it actually is. There was a degree of psyhcology behind the issue the issue of pistols in that those issued with them were those least likely to use them and they were there for reassurance as opposed to practicality.

    Pistols were also an indicator of authority and the man with the pistol was recognized as the possible leader of any group, hence the Brits in NI had their officers carry rifles to make them less conspicuous. Took an age to get that through to the 'gentlemen' here...not until the advent of the Steyr did they begin to move on from long held traditions and carry rifles.

    As an NCO on security duties, escorts etc. I always opted for a pistol as opposed to a rifle, simply because I had a weapon to hand if I needed it, but wasn't impeded by it .
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    The use of a lanyard seems also to be binned.Not much range with a pistol in any event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danno View Post
    The use of a lanyard seems also to be binned.Not much range with a pistol in any event.
    “The only purpose for a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should have never laid down.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by danno View Post
    The use of a lanyard seems also to be binned.Not much range with a pistol in any event.
    Not so.There is an issue extending coil lanyard bought specifically for the USP.It use's a cord loop to attach to the grip of the pistol as lads were damaging them by using ones that attached with a clip.The issue one has the cap badge printed on the leather piece that attaches to the belt.They are mainly issued to overseas units.The rest of us buy our own.Oh and the NS armed boarding teams and ARW use a similar one also.(blackhawk i think)

    PS: You can see the issue lanyard in the picture I posted above on the table,its upside down so you cant see the badge though.
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    Here is an picture where you can clearly see the issue lanyard.(for a high res version go to the DF Flickr page)
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    "Let us be clear about three facts:First of all.All battles and all wars are won in the end by the Infantryman.Secondly the Infantryman bears the brunt of the fighting,his casualties are heavier and he suffers greater extremes of fatigue and discomfort than the other arms.Thirdly,the art of the Infantryman is less stereotyped and harder to acquire than that of any other arm".
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    Cheers for the info apod!!!! Mingy and paddy still serving judging by your pics!!!
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