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    so just got the times and dates for 2Bde fitness tests
    all on a weekday early in the morning, parts 1+2 on one day and part 3 on second day - as per normal.
    FML
    However just one day is set aside to accomodate the RDF
    a Thursday evening
    at 6pm
    on which parts 1,2 and 3 will all be held on the same night.
    Last edited by morpheus; 12th March 2015 at 16:39.
    "He is an enemy officer taken in battle and entitled to fair treatment."
    "No, sir. He's a sergeant, and they don't deserve no respect at all, sir. I should know. They're cunning and artful, if they're any good. I wouldn't mind if he was an officer, sir. But sergeants are clever."

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    on the other side of the coin in my AO RDF IT's were cancelled by the tester last weekend because only 4 people had put their names down. I'd been training and was ready. Me and my 3 lads were good to go but could any other RDF units get off their hole ? Tester was absolutely right - not coming in for 4. ( and it was Sat and Sun for Part III ). Wasn't a lack of knowledge they were on either; they were all briefed for the date in mid december ).

    Swings and roundabouts lads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trellheim View Post
    on the other side of the coin in my AO RDF IT's were cancelled by the tester last weekend because only 4 people had put their names down. I'd been training and was ready. Me and my 3 lads were good to go but could any other RDF units get off their hole ? Tester was absolutely right - not coming in for 4. ( and it was Sat and Sun for Part III ). Wasn't a lack of knowledge they were on either; they were all briefed for the date in mid december ).

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    I thought you weren't allowed to run parts 1,2 and 3 together on the same day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pegasus View Post
    I thought you weren't allowed to run parts 1,2 and 3 together on the same day.
    This is the info I had on my PTL course.

    Now this info i recieved on the dates may be a typo so ive sent a req for clarification back to coy HQ.
    we shall wait n see
    Last edited by morpheus; 12th March 2015 at 17:25.
    "He is an enemy officer taken in battle and entitled to fair treatment."
    "No, sir. He's a sergeant, and they don't deserve no respect at all, sir. I should know. They're cunning and artful, if they're any good. I wouldn't mind if he was an officer, sir. But sergeants are clever."

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    You aren't allowed do 1,2,3 on same day
    "Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "

    "No, they're trying to fly the tank"

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    Well, I won't be doing ITs until my medical is boxed off...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pegasus View Post
    I thought you weren't allowed to run parts 1,2 and 3 together on the same day.
    You are correct - they are conducted on consecutive days
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truck Driver View Post
    You are correct - they are conducted on consecutive days
    They are normally conducted that way but you actually have up to 8 weeks after succesfully completing parts 1&2

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    Turned up in McKee last night with a bunch of other lads to participate in sceduled PMS'd fitness tests, for me part 3, at 6pm

    waited 45 minutes

    BPO didnt turn up, and never bothered to inform us that he wouldn't be around

    waste of my f**king time anf f**k all i can do about it.

    Also, flag was at half mast... anyone know why?
    Last edited by morpheus; 5th June 2015 at 10:27.
    "He is an enemy officer taken in battle and entitled to fair treatment."
    "No, sir. He's a sergeant, and they don't deserve no respect at all, sir. I should know. They're cunning and artful, if they're any good. I wouldn't mind if he was an officer, sir. But sergeants are clever."

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    Quote Originally Posted by morpheus View Post
    Turned up in McKee last night with a bunch of other lads to participate in sceduled PMS'd fitness tests, for me part 3, at 6pm

    waited 45 minutes

    BPO didnt turn up, and never bothered to inform us that he wouldn't be around

    waste of my f**king time anf f**k all i can do about it.

    Also, flag was at half mast... anyone know why?
    F@@king bad drills there by that man. If you take the time to do whats required of you, least he could do is the same. Not turning up for a scheduled training session ,,,, chargeable offence!

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    well, im not saying he didnt turn up for a scheduled event, im saying the gym had a notice in the window saying closed today at 1630pm and the individual in question either told someone who didnt pass it on or just didnt bother to turn up. i dont mind a legitimate reason, but i do mind taking time off work to get across there on time and putting my evening on hold to participate. found the BOS and got him to mark my name down at the gate as having turned up for a scheduled IT part 3. also I heard from a mate who was on duty that same situation happened this week when a van load arrived down from finner camp one morning to do a scheduled fitness test and guess what? the BPO didnt turn up. dunno was it the same person.
    "He is an enemy officer taken in battle and entitled to fair treatment."
    "No, sir. He's a sergeant, and they don't deserve no respect at all, sir. I should know. They're cunning and artful, if they're any good. I wouldn't mind if he was an officer, sir. But sergeants are clever."

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    There is other possibilities. Maybe the BPEO wasn't detailed or was on another detail.

    Check your PMs

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    This is the DF we are talking about and RDF can be just as guilty. Did you ring the Gym PERSONALLY and ensure it was boxed off for 10 bods etc and a verbal commitment that it was going ahead, plus a mobile number to ensure if cancelled, plus up on PMS as "Fit to Undergo" Gym NCO wont sort it but he should be able to let you know if BPEO is supposed to be there and duty BPEO's mobile number and get one of your officers to phone her/him and see what the story is.

    But if you've done all that and no show on tester's part - that's an issue

    The published IT's are not for ad-hoc attendance - you have to do the above ^^^^^
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    The ITS were moved to the 12th of June due to other DF sporting events (probably the triathlon). But the notice about the change went out at least two weeks ago.

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    on IKON was it ?
    "Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "

    "No, they're trying to fly the tank"

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    It was read out at parade. Plus, it was up on the notice board.

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    The above process you mention has never to date been told to me

    all ive heard this year is that you are now on the PMS system, failure to turn up on a date is not acceptable

    we receive an email and a text from the units cadre informing us of the date we are supposed to go on

    to my knowledge our unit phoned the gym a few times yesterday but got no answer and as I was instructed to attend and so i did.

    where will i get all of the contact details?

    how do i find out who the BPEO or the GYM nco is?

    how do i read this notice board? where is it located? bear in mind my own HQ is not mckee

    I wasnt at this parade it was read out on

    im still pi$$ed off.
    Last edited by morpheus; 5th June 2015 at 15:31.
    "He is an enemy officer taken in battle and entitled to fair treatment."
    "No, sir. He's a sergeant, and they don't deserve no respect at all, sir. I should know. They're cunning and artful, if they're any good. I wouldn't mind if he was an officer, sir. But sergeants are clever."

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    Essentially it is up to your unit to communicate changes to the affected people. If as Pegasus said it was read out at parade and published on his unit's notice board then it is fair to assume that the same information was available to your unit (Pegasus' unit HQ is not McKee either). So it would appear that those tasked with co-ordinating this at your unit level did not do their job and ensure the information was passed on. I would also hold your CS to task as at this stage he should be tapped into unit information flow through the Sgt Major and the other CS's, if he is not then maybe he should consider doing something else.

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    The DF expects everyone to know to ask in a situation like this, where logic says if something is cancelled that you said you would attend you will be told.

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    meh I'd expect 3* to turn up without checking but anyone else ....

    to my knowledge our unit phoned the gym a few times yesterday but got no answer and as I was instructed to attend and so i did.

    where will i get all of the contact details?

    how do i find out who the BPEO or the GYM nco is?

    how do i read this notice board? where is it located? bear in mind my own HQ is not mckee

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    they only operated this service for FIFTEEN MINUTES A DAY!!!???
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    "He is an enemy officer taken in battle and entitled to fair treatment."
    "No, sir. He's a sergeant, and they don't deserve no respect at all, sir. I should know. They're cunning and artful, if they're any good. I wouldn't mind if he was an officer, sir. But sergeants are clever."

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    gyms tend to be manned by people who are active ....
    "Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "

    "No, they're trying to fly the tank"

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    Quote Originally Posted by trellheim View Post
    gyms tend to be manned by people who are active ....

    Active doesn't necessarily mean waiting for the phone to ring

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    Quote Originally Posted by trellheim View Post
    You aren't allowed do 1,2,3 on same day
    RDF you're referring to .. I've done it numerous times.

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