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    Replacement for hexi.

    Looks like the cousins are changing over to a better cooking system.
    I wonder how long before we go the same route
    http://www.combatandsurvival.com/new...ent-announced?
    "Let us be clear about three facts:First of all.All battles and all wars are won in the end by the Infantryman.Secondly the Infantryman bears the brunt of the fighting,his casualties are heavier and he suffers greater extremes of fatigue and discomfort than the other arms.Thirdly,the art of the Infantryman is less stereotyped and harder to acquire than that of any other arm".
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    i might quibble with the word 'better'. i'd wait a while if i were you, see how we screw it up....

    besides, doesn't everyone use a Jetboil?

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    Whilst it's meant to be a clean fuel, from what I've seen that Dragon stuff leaves a delightful green goopy mess that would pass for toxic waste.

    The Zip fuels depend on the stove used, they can burn well or leave everything caked in half an inch of soot.

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-08b...YDaSIqNJfCD7d5
    Dunno about the mess bit.The product being supplied for the MoD are solid blocks not gel AFAIK.
    "Let us be clear about three facts:First of all.All battles and all wars are won in the end by the Infantryman.Secondly the Infantryman bears the brunt of the fighting,his casualties are heavier and he suffers greater extremes of fatigue and discomfort than the other arms.Thirdly,the art of the Infantryman is less stereotyped and harder to acquire than that of any other arm".
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    As long as whatever they use to replace hexi looks like a Kendal Mint Cake I'll be happy.

    We must continue the tradition of tricking recruits into biting into them
    To close with and kill the enemy in all weather conditions, night and day and over any terrain

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    Recruits, Jordanian bedoiuns....

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    Quote Originally Posted by HavocIRL View Post
    As long as whatever they use to replace hexi looks like a Kendal Mint Cake I'll be happy.

    We must continue the tradition of tricking recruits into biting into them
    or dipping them in jam and giving them to the locals overseas.
    hedons have more fun.

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    i used the hexi on dark nights last week.... think i was the only one in my patrol harbour with it... think its a decent bit of kit tbh.
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    so Old School Morpheus....lol.

    it is a decent bit of kit, it has stood the test of time. Bombproof design that really nothing can go wrong with with is a major plus.

    I suppose only drawback is the weather affecting flames and heat getting onto the cup.

    But lots of faster stoves available now...times move on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by X-RayOne View Post
    ...lots of faster stoves available now...times move on.

    basically all we are doing is upgrading Hexi TV.

    the old Hexi was Analogue TV, the new FireDragon is Digital TV

    #HexiTV

    simples!
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    Think I might have to get me on of these.While i have a jetboil zip and can't fault it for speed it is bulky and you need to know exactly how much gas is left in it when heading out for more than a day.
    In view of fight light I tend to go with hexi most of the time these days but as we all know it has its drawbacks.Top of my list is the mess it makes and the cleaning required after.I wonder how long it will take DF procurement to cop on to these.
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    "Let us be clear about three facts:First of all.All battles and all wars are won in the end by the Infantryman.Secondly the Infantryman bears the brunt of the fighting,his casualties are heavier and he suffers greater extremes of fatigue and discomfort than the other arms.Thirdly,the art of the Infantryman is less stereotyped and harder to acquire than that of any other arm".
    -- Field Marshall Earl Wavell.1948

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    Quote Originally Posted by apod View Post
    Think I might have to get me on of these.While i have a jetboil zip and can't fault it for speed it is bulky and you need to know exactly how much gas is left in it when heading out for more than a day.
    In view of fight light I tend to go with hexi most of the time these days but as we all know it has its drawbacks.Top of my list is the mess it makes and the cleaning required after.I wonder how long it will take DF procurement to cop on to these.
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    He put a bullet through his brain.
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    Anybody at the DF open day at Farmleigh?
    Did you notice a new style field stove at the Ration pack display? made by "ZIP" I believe(they lost out to Firedragon for the UK MoD contract).Just wondering if any of you had noticed it as you can see it in the video from the display.
    "Let us be clear about three facts:First of all.All battles and all wars are won in the end by the Infantryman.Secondly the Infantryman bears the brunt of the fighting,his casualties are heavier and he suffers greater extremes of fatigue and discomfort than the other arms.Thirdly,the art of the Infantryman is less stereotyped and harder to acquire than that of any other arm".
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    These ones?

    The emphasis on parachute drops gave me a laugh
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    Quote Originally Posted by pym View Post


    These ones?

    The emphasis on parachute drops gave me a laugh
    Packing a cheese grater in your kit???

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    That's the one.
    Not very tactical or practical.
    "Let us be clear about three facts:First of all.All battles and all wars are won in the end by the Infantryman.Secondly the Infantryman bears the brunt of the fighting,his casualties are heavier and he suffers greater extremes of fatigue and discomfort than the other arms.Thirdly,the art of the Infantryman is less stereotyped and harder to acquire than that of any other arm".
    -- Field Marshall Earl Wavell.1948

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    I predict a lot of balancing, following by a lot of falling :(

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    It does look to be potentially quite unstable. Anybody tried one yet?
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    He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flamingo View Post
    It does look to be potentially quite unstable. Anybody tried one yet?
    i've had a go - it was a bit of faff. all the balancing and digging-in shit, and then waiting about a billion years for it to boil.

    the world has moved on, i've used gas and petrol/diesel on trips to the arse end of nowhere with no re-supply for 3 weeks and more - this stuff is catering to a world that no longer exists and trying to compete with things that vastly surpass it in every way (ok, almost every way) while also being not very good at what its for.

    this stuff (and the other solid fuels on offer) offers just one thing to the bloke on the ground - its not going to go 'bang' if your bergen gets hit. everything else it offers is for the benefit of the logistics chain.

    10 minutes to boil a pint of water? bloody hell, i could leave it out in the sun and it would boil quicker!

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    Been using an MSR Pocket Rocket for a few years now. It's miles better than a Hexi and packs up nice and small. Did a career course a few years ago and half of us had them, with the other half using Hexis. Guess which half was tucking in to hot rations while the others water was just getting warm?

    https://www.rei.com/product/660163/m...kpacking-stove

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    Since REI was referenced, if anybody is ever on the west coast of the US, check them out. Awesome store, outdoor heaven :D
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    Similar store in the deep south

    www.basspro.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by sofa View Post
    Similar store in the deep south

    www.basspro.com
    Bass Pro are class. Lived in their store while on work assignment in Arizona
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truck Driver View Post
    Bass Pro are class. Lived in their store while on work assignment in Arizona
    +1 - I have spent hours in their weapons section just chatting with the guys there, very knowledgeable and very helpful.
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