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Originally posted by ibenji View PostI don't think enda kenny could have said it better. It also gave a ship away and i presume another will follow. When I worked on the Irish steel rehabilitation project we got 200 euro per to ton for scrap metal. Every little helps as they say
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Originally posted by ibenji View PostI don't think enda kenny could have said it better. It also gave a ship away and i presume another will follow. When I worked on the Irish steel rehabilitation project we got 200 euro per to ton for scrap metal. Every little helps as they say
A lot has changed since, but you are still you.
Any sympathy for Slab?For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.
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Originally posted by ancientmariner View PostThe Commission's advisors and bureaucrats come up bright ideas such as a border guard of 1500 as a rapid response unit. Such a project is light years away, unless somebody forms , houses, transports, and equips such a force and give it a mandate and a command structure. Ships used as a seagoing element of such a force needs to be manned by commissioned officers with crew subject to State Naval/military law. Finally the EU's bright ideas need to be financed and maintained by the Commission.
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Originally posted by ODIN View PostIf the Brexit causes the end to the Common Travel Area with the UK, I'd say there is a good chance that we will
The last I heard though they wanted to retain it (we need it).
The CTA can be retained IMHO with BREXIT (but expect more checks).
If we were to join Schegen the CTA would have to go. Therefore I'd say that we would only join Schegen if they ended the CTA
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Don't know. Our Navy are filling a sole all-round function in that Department. We could request EU aid, under such a concept to beef up our Border Defence capabilities.
As we know, we are not in Schengen because the Brits are not in it, the reason being to maintain the Common Travel Area. I do not believe the EU will like our proposal that nothing will change!!
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The real use of the CTA these days relates to the border with Northern Ireland. Increased checks will only be useful if either applied at the border, or between NI and the rest of the UK. The border has been, historically, unenforceable for movement.
The only time any movement controls applied to Ireland (partially suspending the CTA in fact if not declaration) was during WW2 and until ,IIRC, about 1950. It had the effect of Britain treating travellers from NI as if they were coming from the south. Unionists were not happy.
I'm not sure that technology would really alter that effect if the CTA were to end. There might be a return to as "hard" a border as they can make it, but if the concern is immigration then I believe NI will still have to be isolated from Britain. It is a big can of worms.
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CTA and Border Security.
Originally posted by expat01 View PostThe real use of the CTA these days relates to the border with Northern Ireland. Increased checks will only be useful if either applied at the border, or between NI and the rest of the UK. The border has been, historically, unenforceable for movement.
The only time any movement controls applied to Ireland (partially suspending the CTA in fact if not declaration) was during WW2 and until ,IIRC, about 1950. It had the effect of Britain treating travellers from NI as if they were coming from the south. Unionists were not happy.
I'm not sure that technology would really alter that effect if the CTA were to end. There might be a return to as "hard" a border as they can make it, but if the concern is immigration then I believe NI will still have to be isolated from Britain. It is a big can of worms.
The other conundrum is , will THE IRELAND ACT 1949, continue as before, which granted historic rights, and treated Irish people in the UK, on an equal footing with UK citizens in most crucial areas. They of course have reciprocal rights here.
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