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Sounds like the Batch 2's problems are a bit of a concern, with reports that Forth has been handed back and Tyne is being brought back into service to cover:
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Oh dear. This does not bode well. Lucky they didn't sell or scrap HMS Tyne.
HMS Tyne to be reactivated as now delayed Offshore Patrol Vessel fleet faults worse than feared
By George Allison - June 16, 2018
HMS Forth will be entering dry dock in Portsmouth soon to have major rectification work performed, with the vessel she replaced being brought back into active service.
Earlier in the year, it was reported that issues with new Offshore Patrol Vessel HMS Forth would be rectified within a few weeks, this did not happen as the defects appear to have been far more serious than feared.HMS Forth has been found to have more than 100 defects, including electrical and safety issues.
Our contact, currently serving in the Royal Navy and involved with the programme, tells us that the ship has been handed back to BAE due to “the very poor standard of build”. We were told:
“For example bolt heads glued back on (thousands over tightened) high voltage switchboard very dangerous, life rafts failed to launch, wiring sub standard, galley not secured… list is huge.
It’s much worse than what they released. Captain of the ship and higher rankers had a meeting with BAE, MoD etc. I’m surprised nothing has been said else where with it being first of class. They reckon 3 months to rectify, I reckon much more.”
We also understand from our contact that the entire Batch 2 River class programme has been set back due to this, with the second vessel in the class having supposed to have started sea trials in October last year but is currently still alongside at the BAE yard in Scotstoun, Glasgow.
Our contact explained what’s happening with HMS Tyne and the other, older Offshore Patrol Vessels.
“However as Forth is a long way from being ready and with these new problems, Tyne is being reactivated and the other OPV which was decommissioned is going into refit.
Safe to say its all very political and no quick way to solve the issues. The whole OPV Batch 2 project has now been delayed to the quality issues.”
“And BAE will be getting the bill for getting HMS Tyne back operational” he added.
HMS Forth is the first of the five new Offshore Patrol Vessels being built to replace the current River Class vessels. The vessels had been ordered to fill a gap in orders after the second carrier and before the Type 26 frigate build started.
A BAE spokesman said:
“We are actively supporting the Royal Navy to resolve issues around a limited number of bolt fastenings and the electrical system on HMS Forth. These are unrelated issues and investigations for each are now underway to ensure that we resolve any potential impact and establish the cause. We are committed to delivering equipment that meets rigorous safety and quality standards.”
An MoD spokesman added:
“It is normal for us to work with industry partners to make some rectifications to ships once they have been handed to the Royal Navy BAE Systems is already at work on some areas as we work together to ensure HMS Forth goes on to tackle piracy, safeguard our fishing stocks and protect our coastline.”
HMS Forth had been earmarked to replace half-sister HMS Clyde as the Falkland Islands Guardship and is currently alongside in Portsmouth undergoing repair work.For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.
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Originally posted by Sparky42 View PostIs this a case of great minds?
I wonder if this debacle will have any impact on the 31 decision?
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Originally posted by Sparky42 View PostIs this a case of great minds?
I wonder if this debacle will have any impact on the 31 decision?
Time will tell.Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe
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Originally posted by hptmurphy View PostGiven there hasn't really been a decision on the Type 31s other that they will be built, if its a tender process I don't see how this can impact on the tender process. BAE will need to up their game big time , which would be to the RNs advantage , in that they squeeze a lot more from the tender process.
Time will tell.
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Originally posted by sofa View PostSnapped off bolt heads glued back on.?
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Originally posted by hptmurphy View PostGiven there hasn't really been a decision on the Type 31s other that they will be built, if its a tender process I don't see how this can impact on the tender process. BAE will need to up their game big time , which would be to the RNs advantage , in that they squeeze a lot more from the tender process.
Time will tell.
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Originally posted by ancientmariner View PostBAE's game has been upped financially with the announcement that Australia is to build up to 9 Type F26's at home Yards for the Australian Navy. The outfit is not fully declared but no doubt a variety of capabilities with rumours of US Aegis type combat systems in keeping with intended policy for destroyers.Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe
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Originally posted by hptmurphy View PostSaw that during the week, it is indeed good news for BAE finacially.....but given the ships will be built in Australia it doesn't adress the quality control issues BAE have had in the UK!Don't spit in my Bouillabaisse .
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Originally posted by Laners View PostMaybe BAE are thinking that the Aussies might do a better job than the UK yards .Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe
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Originally posted by hptmurphy View PostAustralia will buy anything decent on offer...once they can build it in Australia........which is not a bad idea.....
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Originally posted by ancientmariner View PostWe had the capability until VCD was flushed, followed by the State Shipping line, followed lately by our bigger Drydock all at the hands of the Mandarins who only have a policy of amputation and putting up with limping along with zero ambition to retain infrastructure for the future.For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.
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