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    Quote Originally Posted by DeV View Post
    If you have a 57mm or 76mm it isn't just a self contained rotating turret! There is a shell hoist to the magazine below decks. The RN 30mm just sits on (I assume reinforced) deck.
    And any protection measures for the magazine that wouldn't be in the Rivers, not too mention where whatever is currently under the 30mm ends up needing to go, from memory isn't the Krabi a couple of hundred tons heavier than the Batch 1 rivers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EUFighter View Post
    Given that the Clyde is the youngest of the class, it must have taken a pounding as it is going while the Tyne which is the oldest of the class is not scheduled for disposal in the next 5 years. Severn goes this year with Clyde and Mersey in 2 years. Normally you would keep the youngest, more capable vessel if you had the choice.
    Then again the Falkland islands patrol is not easy, especially with up to 300 sea days per year.
    Tyne has been set up to take over MCM / Dive duties in the interim period while some of the Hunts are off line. The Batch 1's may have been capable of 300 sea days per year but have never been funded or tasked to do that. The fleet of four has averaged about 230 odd. With a refit these vessels will get a cost conscious Navy a few more years service in a EEZ constabulary role.

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    En Suite cabins!! And we thought our setup was good aboard ship! Take notes whoever is designing the next Irish Naval Vessel.
    Great to see the marines getting the old mess decks. Much better use of space.
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    So how will this 4 week rotation work out when they are down in the Falklands
    Don't spit in my Bouillabaisse .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laners View Post
    So how will this 4 week rotation work out when they are down in the Falklands
    Regular flights to Buenos Aires and back ..

    In the post Brexit world everything is possible ...

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    En Suite cabins!! And we thought our setup was good aboard ship!
    Which is all well and good until it all backs up and you cabin floods..........personal experience!!!!
    Time for another break I think......

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeV View Post
    If you have a 57mm or 76mm it isn't just a self contained rotating turret! There is a shell hoist to the magazine below decks. The RN 30mm just sits on (I assume reinforced) deck.
    76 mm Sovraponte - is exactly that. Just mounted on deck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graylion View Post
    76 mm Sovraponte - is exactly that. Just mounted on deck.
    Which no body uses.
    But Italy might, if they feel like it, on a Hanger roof or somewhere.

    Se posso essere disturbato.......................

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herald View Post
    Which no body uses.
    But Italy might, if they feel like it, on a Hanger roof or somewhere.

    Se posso essere disturbato.......................
    PPA ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graylion View Post
    PPA ...
    How many of them do Italy have again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herald View Post
    How many of them do Italy have again?
    7 ordered. Your point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graylion View Post
    7 ordered. Your point?
    Hardly tried and tested. We don't need to be the first customer again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herald View Post
    Which no body uses.
    But Italy might, if they feel like it, on a Hanger roof or somewhere.

    Se posso essere disturbato.......................
    The 76mm Sovraponte is a new weapon system, being designed by Oto Melara, for Installation on a new series of ships, on high structure platforms such as hangar roof. The gun will be 40% lighter than the gun with through deck loader. The loader will be contained within the turret and will use current smart ammunition. Knocking the gun and the Italian navy is a bit premature. They are engaged on a 5 billion Euro, fleet renewal plan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by na grohmitŪ View Post
    Hardly tried and tested. We don't need to be the first customer again.
    A 4,500 tonne Mutlipurpose Patrol vessel at Ä450 million a piece,,,, wouldn't worry too much about it really
    Time for another break I think......

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    Quote Originally Posted by hptmurphy View Post
    A 4,500 tonne Mutlipurpose Patrol vessel at Ä450 million a piece,,,, wouldn't worry too much about it really

    So multipurpose that it's going to be doing BMD as well it seems:
    http://www.navyrecognition.com/index...y-in-2024.html

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    So the MOD has decided to fund the retention of the Batch 1's (about £13 million) in case of a hard Brexit situation, makes sense really though I wonder where the RN will find the crews from if they do end up having to keep all 3 in service after all?

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    In last months issue of Warships an article on the BRN paints a picture of equipment from ships that have arrived back into port being stripped out in order to bolt on the next ship being sent out. Same with the subs

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    Quote Originally Posted by sofa View Post
    In last months issue of Warships an article on the BRN paints a picture of equipment from ships that have arrived back into port being stripped out in order to bolt on the next ship being sent out. Same with the subs
    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/m...eet-resilience

    RN is stumping up UK£ 160m to fix the Type 45s (which havenít been right since they were delivered)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeV View Post
    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/m...eet-resilience

    RN is stumping up UK£ 160m to fix the Type 45s (which havenít been right since they were delivered)
    I thought that program had started before now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sofa View Post
    In last months issue of Warships an article on the BRN paints a picture of equipment from ships that have arrived back into port being stripped out in order to bolt on the next ship being sent out. Same with the subs
    BRN? If you mean the RN, then yeah depending on what it is there are swaps happening Harpoon and Phalanx for example, nothing to be done about it at this stage given all the issues that the RN now face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky42 View Post
    BRN? If you mean the RN, then yeah depending on what it is there are swaps happening Harpoon and Phalanx for example, nothing to be done about it at this stage given all the issues that the RN now face.
    It mentioned big ticket stuff like Radar

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    Quote Originally Posted by sofa View Post
    It mentioned big ticket stuff like Radar
    Radar systems? That seems a bit much for swapping out? Are you sure in wasn't in regards to the 23/26 swaps when they are being built? I read they've had to order 3 new sets for the 26 to handle the program.

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    Have the article here now. Surface Search Radar taken off ships going into maintenance and put on ship deploying.
    £6,700 circuit card assembly for torpedo launch system swapped 26 times across 12 type 23 ships.
    MoD to save money only ordered incomplete technical documentation for the Type 45s which made parts IDing and maintenance a nightmare

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    Quote Originally Posted by sofa View Post
    Have the article here now. Surface Search Radar taken off ships going into maintenance and put on ship deploying.
    £6,700 circuit card assembly for torpedo launch system swapped 26 times across 12 type 23 ships.
    MoD to save money only ordered incomplete technical documentation for the Type 45s which made parts IDing and maintenance a nightmare
    They are looking for pound coins with burning £10 notes in hand ...

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