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Originally posted by danno View PostA common hull might be difficult if the FFG version has different propulsion system.
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Has any navy given any thought to an FFG escort being the weapons platform dealing with targets detected/selected etc by the DDG. It would save on duplication of sensor and weapon fit for escort purposes but pretty useless for indepedent operation.
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Originally posted by danno View PostHas any navy given any thought to an FFG escort being the weapons platform dealing with targets detected/selected etc by the DDG. It would save on duplication of sensor and weapon fit for escort purposes but pretty useless for indepedent operation.
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Originally posted by danno View PostTo the extent units have limited capability in their own right?
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We are where we are because of SDR mathematics. The Global combat ship, F26, was originally 13 hulls, but the costs for the package were reduced by the Strategic Defence Review to 8 F26 and make up the numbers by the 5 advanced OPV's. The proliferation of three new hull types, with different task suites, and many engineering prototype concepts in power and propulsion has led to a lot of falling between stools AND stop start budget allocations to keep builders on the start line for production some time soon!!
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Originally posted by ancientmariner View PostWe are where we are because of SDR mathematics. The Global combat ship, F26, was originally 13 hulls, but the costs for the package were reduced by the Strategic Defence Review to 8 F26 and make up the numbers by the 5 advanced OPV's. The proliferation of three new hull types, with different task suites, and many engineering prototype concepts in power and propulsion has led to a lot of falling between stools AND stop start budget allocations to keep builders on the start line for production some time soon!!
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Originally posted by danno View PostHas any navy given any thought to an FFG escort being the weapons platform dealing with targets detected/selected etc by the DDG. It would save on duplication of sensor and weapon fit for escort purposes but pretty useless for indepedent operation.
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F26 Build
Originally posted by Medsailor View PostThe concept is unstable. If you build a ship designed as a weapons platform only, then you have to accept that it is somewhat disposable. If you can't live with that, then you start up-arming it for self-defence with adequate sensors and effectors. At that stage you've built a full-blown frigate with associated costs. Look at what happened with the LCS.
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Originally posted by ancientmariner View PostAccording to BMOD printed rumours (Defence News) Letters have been issued to Senior officers appointed to oversee building of F 26 tonnages ( 3 ? ) to commence April 2017. The overall concept is 8 ships with 5 lesser ships making up a 13 ship fleet , maybe at least of equal speed for combined tasks.
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Royal Naval Future
Originally posted by Sparky42 View PostWell they've already ordered the first set of 5" guns for them so it's likely within the next year, however I'd say they will be VERY lucky to get the first into service before the 23's start End of Lifing. As for what the spec of the 31's will be, right now it's far to early to guess what it might be as even the RN doesn't know what it wants, other than "Cheaper". The 31 is IMO a stupid decision that is another penny wise, pound foolish choice that the UK has become fond of doing.
Between Strategic Reviews and it's real purpose of placating Budgeting theorists, they have arrived at the point of NO Fleet Air Arm combat aircraft or a dependable surface combat fleet. The peace time ability to police all oceans is questionable. Authorised strengths of Forces are not being met by many thousands. Cobbling together plans for future units has led to production failing to meet reliable standards and an ongoing dilution of capability and outfits, producing ships with little future or regard by those tasked to operate them.Last edited by ancientmariner; 29 August 2016, 08:28.
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Last edited by Tempest; 31 August 2016, 22:38.
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