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    Seemingly all air ambo ops are to be concentrated and controlled by the NACC which intends to provided a 24/7 aeromediical service . According to the NAS the AC have done 54 such missions over the last 10 months with the CG doing 25. If a 24/7 centre is being set up and staffed separately from the existing NAS regional centers then it is fair to say that 24/7 ops are signed off on and that the CG,AC and unions are up for it.

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    Recommendation - maintain status quo

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    Apparently €2m is being spent on a permanent hanger for Athlone

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    that is some amount of trapeze artistry to get to those conclusions .... Why is the Department doing this or want to do ti given the IRCG fleet is sat there
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    Does anyone know why did the Air Corps changed from an EC135/H135 to an AW139 for EAS (I mean after the crashed EC135/H135 was rebuilt and returned)? Is it a permanent change or is it planned that they will revert to the EC135/H135 in the future?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ias View Post
    Does anyone know why did the Air Corps changed from an EC135/H135 to an AW139 for EAS (I mean after the crashed EC135/H135 was rebuilt and returned)? Is it a permanent change or is it planned that they will revert to the EC135/H135 in the future?
    Probably because with only two EC135 the pilot training role has no redundancy if one of the airframes is monopolised by the EAS role - whereas the AW139 fleet has six airframes to burn through.

    You just have to think, from an AC perspective, about the differing priorities the different roles have: the number one role is training, so they can leave and get a better job. The second most important role is getting good PR that pays the bills for priority number one - hence the EAS role.

    Some way down the list, say at about 673, is the operational and training support for those dirty, sweaty soldiers.

    So, priority #1 is to keep both EC135's available for training, priority #2 is good PR - EAS, ballot boxes to small islands, delivering balls to sports events etc... Only after all that has been sorted do we get, reluctantly, to the really marginal stuff like moving soldiers and their gear around - but you can always bump it off the list if more important stuff comes along.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ropebag View Post
    Probably because with only two EC135 the pilot training role has no redundancy if one of the airframes is monopolised by the EAS role - whereas the AW139 fleet has six airframes to burn through.

    You just have to think, from an AC perspective, about the differing priorities the different roles have: the number one role is training, so they can leave and get a better job. The second most important role is getting good PR that pays the bills for priority number one - hence the EAS role.

    Some way down the list, say at about 673, is the operational and training support for those dirty, sweaty soldiers.

    So, priority #1 is to keep both EC135's available for training, priority #2 is good PR - EAS, ballot boxes to small islands, delivering balls to sports events etc... Only after all that has been sorted do we get, reluctantly, to the really marginal stuff like moving soldiers and their gear around - but you can always bump it off the list if more important stuff comes along.
    To be fair, balls to sports is fairly important on the public relations front. Whoever decided that only 2 EC135's were sufficient should be sacked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ibenji View Post
    To be fair, balls to sports is fairly important on the public relations front. Whoever decided that only 2 EC135's were sufficient should be sacked.
    You dont' see the Garda helicopter doing it.
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