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  • Originally posted by na grohmiti View Post

    Can't/Won't.
    Their enforcement activities on land are almost non existent.
    They could on 15% but only NS can do 85%

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    • Getting back to strengths and the future, it seems that even for maximum pension years, for those that joined after a date in 2013, the pension earned will only be 20% of final salary. This will mean an exodus, at the earliest pension age, to get private sector employment to raise families and provide for future. It saves money--if you get injured in service there is no hospital and when you retire there is no money. Well done VFM!!.

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      • The present permitted strengths of the NS in CS4 ( establishments) does not reflect crews for each of the 9 ships currently in service. Quotes in various sources indicate that no strength increase was allowed for the last two P60's. Knowing the logic of the mandarins, when P31. P41, and P42 are decommissioned, they will strike off around 150 personnel or more, shuffle the figures, and curtail recruitment. Whatever recruitment is left needs to be redesigned to positive recruitment i.e. Right age group, medically fit, and Leaving Cert. Standard, no interviews or exclusion procedures, take into training and finally select by Final Approval.
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        • Originally posted by ancientmariner View Post
          The present permitted strengths of the NS in CS4 ( establishments) does not reflect crews for each of the 9 ships currently in service. Quotes in various sources indicate that no strength increase was allowed for the last two P60's. Knowing the logic of the mandarins, when P31. P41, and P42 are decommissioned, they will strike off around 150 personnel or more, shuffle the figures, and curtail recruitment. Whatever recruitment is left needs to be redesigned to positive recruitment i.e. Right age group, medically fit, and Leaving Cert. Standard, no interviews or exclusion procedures, take into training and finally select by Final Approval.
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          this actually goes back to 2001 when Niamh was commissioned as she was the 8th ship

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          • The Cover of today's Irish Star is a sad indictment of the current staffing crisis.
            For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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            • Listen: @HenryMcKean of @NewstalkFM & @SeanMoncrieff visited the #NavalBase to talk to the #Navy about careers & our recruitment drive to help build the #FutureNavy
              Visit http://navy.ie To listen to Henry’s piece click on the link below: https://newstalk.com/podcasts/highlights-from-moncrieff…




              5:48 PM · Apr 21, 2022
              https://pd5i4.app.link/DlwOWMDKSeb?$deeplink_path=podcast/43/337663&$desktop_url=https://www.goloudplayer.com/episodes/337663
              For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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              • In regards to our on going issues, a view from New Zealand:
                “We have lost significant flexibility,” said Rear Adm. David Proctor, “and we have lost the ability to undertake a number of concurrent activities.”

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                • Taxpayer picking up €13m tab for outsourcing maintenance of navy ships as key staff quit

                  ​NS is supposed to have 1 CPO/ERA and 10 PO/ERA, there is no PO/ERAs left

                  Finnish company given contract to maintain four ships after Naval Service engineering experts left for better pay and conditions in private sector

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                  • That figure is nowhere near correct. Each ship used to have one CPO/ERA and 10 other POs mixed between ERA, EA, RRT, Cook, Bosun etc.If the numbers given are correct, thingsre far worse than reported.
                    Sean has a habit of getting important details mixed up though.
                    edit: Maybe he means dockyard staff?
                    Last edited by na grohmiti; 22 March 2024, 10:35.
                    For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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                    • Originally posted by na grohmiti View Post
                      That figure is nowhere near correct. Each ship used to have one CPO/ERA and 10 other POs mixed between ERA, EA, RRT, Cook, Bosun etc.If the numbers given are correct, thingsre far worse than reported.
                      Sean has a habit of getting important details mixed up though.
                      edit: Maybe he means dockyard staff?
                      possibly but



                      As at 24 February:
                      Establishment of ERAs - 85
                      Strength - 67 (including 16 undergoing training)

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                      • Thanks, was looking for one of those PQs. Thats 2023. Assuming things in the ERA world were the same as the rest of the DF, we would be down to about 50 and those who were undergoing training, all left and joined Stryker or GE.
                        Last edited by na grohmiti; 23 March 2024, 10:34.
                        For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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                        • Originally posted by na grohmiti View Post
                          Thanks, was looking for one of those PQs. Thats 2023. Assuming things in the ERA world were the same as the rest of the DF, we would be down to about 50 and those who were undergoing training, all left and joined Stryker or GE.
                          The years are getting away from me

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                          • the irony is that the Wartsila people in Ireland are probably all ex-NS, on twice the money and less bullshit.

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