Tax

[DeV]

http://pdforra.ie/news/?p=1235

[Truck Driver]

I might be daft asking this, but is this only applicable to members of the Permanent Defence Force?
Seeing as the title of same circular is:

Information Circular No 12/2016: Introduction of Flat rate Expenses for Enlisted Members of the Defence Forces

[DeV]

Isn't flat rate expenses added on automatically as well?

[X-RayOne]

I might be daft asking this, but is this only applicable to members of the Permanent Defence Force?
Seeing as the title of same circular is:

Information Circular No 12/2016: Introduction of Flat rate Expenses for Enlisted Members of the Defence Forces

Simples....just ring revenue and ask for it to be added to your PAYE information. If they ask just give them the truth "I am Pvt Bloggs, 7th Inf Bn, E Coy or wathever, army number 123456" and see what they say. Single force concept and all that, let them figure out if it is a permanent or reserve unit.

worst they can say is no. if they say yes...happy days.

[DeV]

Simples....just ring revenue and ask for it to be added to your PAYE information. If they ask just give them the truth "I am Pvt Bloggs, 7th Inf Bn, E Coy or wathever, army number 123456" and see what they say. Single force concept and all that, let them figure out if it is a permanent or reserve unit.

worst they can say is no. if they say yes...happy days.

DoD should be on Cert of Tax Credits anyway so they know

[DeV]

Nothing on the Revenue list at the minute

http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/it/leaf...e-expenses.xls

https://www.kildarestreet.com/wrans/?id=2016-01-19a.291

[pym]

DoD should be on Cert of Tax Credits anyway so they know

Flat rate expenses aren't applied automatically - you could be a civilian employed by DoD for all Revenue knows.

[X-RayOne]

No....you have to apply for them. Like most tax credits. Lots of them out there that people aren't readily aware of and Revenue don't exactly go trumpeting what everybody is entitled to if they don't claim it themselves.

Although I distinctly remember people successfully getting flat rate expenses way back in the day in my old FCA / Reserve unit too.

[danno]

Is it an allowance or a tax credit, hard to tell from the media reports. If its a credit it wont be much use to RDF unless they spend all of the FTT in the cleaners!

[DeV]

It is Flat Rate Expenses, if I remember rightly the way it appears on your P60 is you earned X, you paid y PAYE, and the PAYE owed is reduced by the amount of flat rate expenses your allowed automatically (ie no receipts have to be submitted).

In a nutshell you pay less PAYE (to the sum of the flat rate expense).

You get it (the same amount) no matter if you've spend nil or €1,000

[X-RayOne]

correct Dev.

[DeV]

http://pdforra.ie/news/?p=1270

[Bravo20]

Of course they need explicit consent to transfer personal data. Rather than spending money hiring a barrister on this point they should have contacted the data protection commissioner directly and she would have provided her opinion.

[hedgehog]

Of course they need explicit consent to transfer personal data. Rather than spending money hiring a barrister on this point they should have contacted the data protection commissioner directly and she would have provided her opinion.

If you asked 20 Barristers this question you would get 20 different answers. If you asked 20 Solicitors you would get 20 different answers as well.

If you asked the DPC's office you would also get 20 different answers.

Likewise here on this site, you would get 20 different answers as well-

The only ones who could actually say that a breach occurred is either a Judge or Helen the Data Protection Commissioner, In determining whether or not breaches of the DPA's occurred the Courts or the DPA would be influenced by:

The data shared was generated for a purpose similar to its original generation requirement,
The data relates to a specific and closed grouping of people
The data is shared between two secure entities which are part of the same organisation (Defence to Revenue)
There was an opt out clause, which was heavily advertised
The shared data would ultimately benefit the recipients.

However, before that even starts it would require an individual or the DPC to make a complaint.

Bearing in mind that this was notified to every PDFORRA member via reps, notices and through the magazine etc, I would reckon the only personnel who would have a chance of making a legitimate complaint to the DPC are those DF members who are not in PDFORRA.

However, the defence to this is (1) non PDFORRA personnel are nothing to do with PDFORRA (2) it is obligatory that anything gained by PDFORRA for its members is also applied to non PDFORRA members .

That's only 1 opinion.

[danno]

AFAIK a court action for damages needs a declaration from the DPA that a breach happened and even at that the claimer has to demonstrate an actual economic and /or health loss. This arises from a High Court case here with the FBD but the Irish case was rejected by the UK Court of Appeal in the Gore Vidal case and pretty well distinguished at that (more extinguished) so maybe a direction from the DPA might not be so bad after all.

[DeV]

Of course the Department could just say to Revenue here is a list of people entitled to it (as every other employers does)

[morpheus]

Has anyone managed to claim this? I could choose it on revenue online - but for this year only , i guess ill have to phone up about previous years?

[danno]

Its 2016 onwards only.

[morpheus]

FYI applied for and got the flat rate expenses on revenue online