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Last edited by Graylion; 4 August 2016, 08:34.
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Originally posted by Graylion View Post...We are either working in the EU battlegroups where other nations supply the radar...
it also ignores the nature of the equipment and how its used - this type of locating equipment is employed at Coy and even Pln+ locations: it would seem to me foolish to build in a requirement for multi-national structures and formations at the Coy and Pln level - such formations require regular joint training, and create organisational friction even in the most well-honed formations, they are a necessary evil and as such should only be brought about when no other option exists. they never, ever work quite as well is if one nation had the resources and skills to do the job on its own.
to swing back to the political and strategic, Ireland already doesn't bring airlift, or battlefield mobility, or armour, or artillery, or logistics, or air support: its domestic politics mean than its a somewhere between unknown and unreliable as a military partner - if Ireland goes any further down the road of 'we'll provide some of the bodies, but you have to bring all the gear, and oh yes, we might just bale on you if the politics look bad', then no one is going to want to be your partner. hence loss of friends and loss of influence...
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Originally posted by ropebag View Posti think this in an unfortunate attitude to take in strategic terms - basing your doctrine, diplomacy and defence and security policy on the principle that someone else will always bring the expensive gear might be termed 'couragous'. its an insult, it means to do something dumber than pork.
it also ignores the nature of the equipment and how its used - this type of locating equipment is employed at Coy and even Pln+ locations: it would seem to me foolish to build in a requirement for multi-national structures and formations at the Coy and Pln level - such formations require regular joint training, and create organisational friction even in the most well-honed formations, they are a necessary evil and as such should only be brought about when no other option exists. they never, ever work quite as well is if one nation had the resources and skills to do the job on its own.
to swing back to the political and strategic, Ireland already doesn't bring airlift, or battlefield mobility, or armour, or artillery, or logistics, or air support: its domestic politics mean than its a somewhere between unknown and unreliable as a military partner - if Ireland goes any further down the road of 'we'll provide some of the bodies, but you have to bring all the gear, and oh yes, we might just bale on you if the politics look bad', then no one is going to want to be your partner. hence loss of friends and loss of influence...
Edit: As for transporting the ISTAR company I'd like a Damen logics crossover for transporting it.
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Originally posted by zone 1 View Posttalk is cheap
I find it interesting that the government, any Irish government, talked about capability gaps and then talked about filling them.
That is somewhat unusual behaviour - while it may, of course, not happen, I find it incredulous that a government put its head above the parapet on this issue with the intention of not doing anything about it - its easier and cheaper to say ' no problem here, neutral blah blah ' and have the political problem go away....
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This is quite interesting. As far as I can tell the radar did not make it into the whitepaper?
Forthcoming White Paper will underpin decisions on future provision of Irish Defence Force equipmentIreland’s first White Paper on Defence was published in 2000. In the intervening period there have been significant changes in the security environment and the emergence of new and complex challenges. In this context, the Government decided that there was a requirement to prepare a new White Paper
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Originally posted by Graylion View PostThis is quite interesting. As far as I can tell the radar did not make it into the whitepaper?
http://flyinginireland.com/2015/06/f...rce-equipment/
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