I always thought the Centauro was the most obvious like for like replacement for the AML 90. I wonder if it was ever consdiered at department level.
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Originally posted by Graylion View PostYes, but those are mostly due to parts commonality. Patria, if suitably motivated, could probably be persuaded to build a lower hull with mainly the same machanics
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Originally posted by Sparky42 View PostPerhaps, but an Irish order is not going to be enough to motivate any major company into going off and building a new model, and even if it was what would be the price tag?
Also, if one buys the Freccia one has commonality of parts with Centauro.Last edited by Graylion; 7 September 2016, 15:35.
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Originally posted by Sparky42 View PostPerhaps, but an Irish order is not going to be enough to motivate any major company into going off and building a new model, and even if it was what would be the price tag?
Having said that I think we are very better off getting OPVs on our own steam.
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Originally posted by danno View PostI understood that the MOU with the UK would allow for joint purchases to obtain max economy of scale savings, could not a similiar effort be made with Eurfor members as appropriate to allow items be accessed for purchase which would not otherwise happen on our own.
Having said that I think we are very better off getting OPVs on our own steam.
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We have maybe missed the bus with what support weapon to put on an 8x8!http://www.kmweg.de/home/artillerie/...itzen/agm.html
They have already tested it on the Boxer and found it did not need any additional stabilisation or further modifications. Fully automatic turret with modular charges.
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Originally posted by EUFighter View PostWe have maybe missed the bus with what support weapon to put on an 8x8!http://www.kmweg.de/home/artillerie/...itzen/agm.html
They have already tested it on the Boxer and found it did not need any additional stabilisation or further modifications. Fully automatic turret with modular charges.
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Originally posted by Graylion View Post12.5 t on its own? 'bit much, no?"Well, stone me! We've had cocaine, bribery and Arsenal scoring two goals at home. But just when you thought there were truly no surprises left in football, Vinnie Jones turns out to be an international player!" (Jimmy Greaves)!"
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Originally posted by Banner View PostOk here is my complete 100% Amateur opinion on this.
Firstly can a thread split be done by the mods so that posts relating to SP artillery be moved to the Arty Section? There seems to be some confusion here about the difference between SP Arty and direct fire vehicles.
Anyhu, my tuppence worth is that the Govt should invest in something like the CV90 40MM variant. It should be used to replace the Scorps and also used as an additional brigade level asset for each of the INF brigades that we have on paper.
How many vehicles makes up a squadron? (I have no idea that’s why Im asking) Is it 12? If so then why not get 36 combat vehicles plus 3 Command vehicles plus 3 recovery vehicles. 1 unit of 12 plus command vehicle plus recovery vehicle for each brigade and also a further 12 to replace the scorps.
This is not challenging from a political perspective. Wont cost a fortune, provides a significant boost to firepower, can effectively take on T55 /T62 and is in use with a number of countries that contribute to EU Battlegroups.
The downside is introducing another calibre of weapon. And also the crusties will go bananas about Ireland buying “Tanks”. (no bad thing and at least they are Swedish tanks that play ABBA as the default setting not nasty American killing machines. :-))
And the purchase price of a CV9040 is about 3 times that of a MOWAG.
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Originally posted by DeV View PostExcept we aren't talking about creating an APC mounted Bde (unless they find oil when digging Metro North and DART Undeeground). We are talking about probably up to 100 APCs @ up to €1.5m each
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