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    Speaking to a neighbour who is Preparing for overseas, and he has been told they will be issued brown Haix next week.
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    UNDOF yeah?

    DFCC were due to make a recommendation before Christmas IOT allow issue for UNDOF in March and UNIFIL in April. The question remains as to if they will continue to be worn on return home.
    Mali have been using the Haix Nepal(French army CCE boot) for the last rotation.These replaced the Haix "Desert Combat High liability" UK issue that have been on issue the last few years.
    The Nepals are a higher leg version of the Haix scout which has been on trial here.

    On a side note the new style UBACS has started to be issued to non overseas units.
    Anybody had a look at the draft new L3?? Be interesting to see the changes especially for the RDF.
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    Be interesting to see the changes especially for the RDF.
    probably get something useless on scale of issue, like barrack jackets
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    What are the changes. No Ikon in my all sign

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    Quote Originally Posted by morpheus View Post
    probably get something useless on scale of issue, like barrack jackets
    Why useless?? The barracks jacket is used as working dress and saves on wear and tear on your smock. You keep your smock for field work etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by koppiteal View Post
    What are the changes. No Ikon in my all sign
    Don't worry the new L3 hasn't been published yet.Still waiting,and a draft is doing the rounds. Just interested to see if they have fixed certain glaring anomalies and if SFC is reflected in the new document.
    "Let us be clear about three facts:First of all.All battles and all wars are won in the end by the Infantryman.Secondly the Infantryman bears the brunt of the fighting,his casualties are heavier and he suffers greater extremes of fatigue and discomfort than the other arms.Thirdly,the art of the Infantryman is less stereotyped and harder to acquire than that of any other arm".
    -- Field Marshall Earl Wavell.1948

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    Ah ok. Cheers Apod

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    Situation : You are RDF and get to choose a single item to be added to the RDF Scale of Permanent Issue to New Recruits . What do you choose ? ( No ordnance , so not GSBA,helmet , battlevest, or IPLCS , respirator etc )

    Me : Raingear
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    You are asking the wrong question as recruits are the one group LEAST likely to have anything new authorised as their is the constant fear they wont come back after their first FTT AKA paycheck.

    Perhaps rephrase to Trained soldier table?

    In that case (were I RDF) if I had to pick one item it would be Operational boots.
    "Let us be clear about three facts:First of all.All battles and all wars are won in the end by the Infantryman.Secondly the Infantryman bears the brunt of the fighting,his casualties are heavier and he suffers greater extremes of fatigue and discomfort than the other arms.Thirdly,the art of the Infantryman is less stereotyped and harder to acquire than that of any other arm".
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    I can't believe, in Ireland's climate, that wet weather gear is not on personal issue. On H&S grounds if nothing else, as getting soaking wet would contribute in no small way to the risk of hypothermia, regardless of the time of the year. Or is the argument that the RDF never go outdoors under any circumstances?
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    Id say operational boots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flamingo View Post
    I can't believe, in Ireland's climate, that wet weather gear is not on personal issue. On H&S grounds if nothing else, as getting soaking wet would contribute in no small way to the risk of hypothermia, regardless of the time of the year. Or is the argument that the RDF never go outdoors under any circumstances?
    All PDF get waterproofs as personal issue.
    RDF get waterproof gear as a pool issue.When and if required.
    "Let us be clear about three facts:First of all.All battles and all wars are won in the end by the Infantryman.Secondly the Infantryman bears the brunt of the fighting,his casualties are heavier and he suffers greater extremes of fatigue and discomfort than the other arms.Thirdly,the art of the Infantryman is less stereotyped and harder to acquire than that of any other arm".
    -- Field Marshall Earl Wavell.1948

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    Quote Originally Posted by apod View Post
    All PDF get waterproofs as personal issue.
    RDF get waterproof gear as a pool issue.When and if required.
    So it never rains on the RDF, or do exercises get cancelled if the forecast is rain with showery intervals?

    I can' t see how well having wet weather gear on pool issue would work, putting on the damp muddy kit that some minger had on the previous weekend doesn't sound ideal, not to mention the faff of having to draw and return to stores every time there is something that involves going outside.

    Or does it work better than I imagine?
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    He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
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    Pool issue is bollox, unless all your unit are a standard size.
    In the real world this is not the case.
    If you have a unit where you have the normal mix of short female privates, and extremely tall male ones, pool issue raingear won't work. The smallies will look ridiculous, and be unable to do the basic military tasks as they try to pind their hands at the end of the sleeves so they can pick up the hem of the raingear round their knees to toll up the legs of the trousers.
    Meanwhile the tall fella has a dry core, but wet extremities, as the rain slowly soaks up his wet sleeves.
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    Don't shoot the messenger.Not defending the practice. Just stating the fact of what the policy is now.
    Having a pop at me won't change it.
    Soyourself.
    "Let us be clear about three facts:First of all.All battles and all wars are won in the end by the Infantryman.Secondly the Infantryman bears the brunt of the fighting,his casualties are heavier and he suffers greater extremes of fatigue and discomfort than the other arms.Thirdly,the art of the Infantryman is less stereotyped and harder to acquire than that of any other arm".
    -- Field Marshall Earl Wavell.1948

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