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    One of the first lessons I learned about stores staff was to never believe "the gear will follow you up", journos here's your opportunity to actually do something useful....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck View Post
    UNDOF rotation going without having been issued the new boots. No confirmation as to whether they will get them in theatre.

    UNIFIL Bn in same boat apparently.
    Not happening.. Dun dun dummmm !

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    They have a couple of thousand pairs in stores at the moment.Love to know how they plan to roll them out.
    I can't see them liking mixed dress in units so issue to full units one at a time would be the way to go.Having said that what do you do if someone only just got issued a pair of black boots shortly before his/her unit goes brown?
    Not exactly best value for the taxpayer.
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    We had mixed dress in units while we were doing the MTP and brown boots rollout - some of the red faced shouty people got a bit excited about it all, but it wasn't for long (in the big picture), and it doesn't really matter...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ropebag View Post
    We had mixed dress in units while we were doing the MTP and brown boots rollout - some of the red faced shouty people got a bit excited about it all, but it wasn't for long (in the big picture), and it doesn't really matter...
    Has sleeves and tucked/untucked been sorted yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeV View Post
    Has sleeves and tucked/untucked been sorted yet?
    Apparently the Army Sgt Major in the UK has decreed that individuals can now decide for themselves if they want to go sleeves up or down during the summer period unless uniformity demands it and that will be decided by unit commanders and RSM's!

    Gotta love army oxymorons.
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    "Let us be clear about three facts:First of all.All battles and all wars are won in the end by the Infantryman.Secondly the Infantryman bears the brunt of the fighting,his casualties are heavier and he suffers greater extremes of fatigue and discomfort than the other arms.Thirdly,the art of the Infantryman is less stereotyped and harder to acquire than that of any other arm".
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    Quote Originally Posted by apod View Post
    Apparently the Army Sgt Major in the UK has decreed that individuals can now decide for themselves if they want to go sleeves up or down during the summer period unless uniformity demands it and that will be decided by unit commanders and RSM's!

    Gotta love army oxymorons.
    They have one in the Brits aswell (bold font)?
    "Well, stone me! We've had cocaine, bribery and Arsenal scoring two goals at home. But just when you thought there were truly no surprises left in football, Vinnie Jones turns out to be an international player!" (Jimmy Greaves)!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by apod View Post
    Apparently the Army Sgt Major in the UK has decreed that individuals can now decide for themselves if they want to go sleeves up or down during the summer period unless uniformity demands it and that will be decided by unit commanders and RSM's!

    Gotta love army oxymorons.
    Who cares what the Brits do. They're them and we're us .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Craghopper View Post
    Who cares what the Brits do. They're them and we're us .
    That's a fairly negative attitude. IMHO we should have a similar appointment here also.BTW the idea is not unique to them.Common practice in a lot of major Armies.

    But that's beside the point I was trying to make anyway.
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    "Let us be clear about three facts:First of all.All battles and all wars are won in the end by the Infantryman.Secondly the Infantryman bears the brunt of the fighting,his casualties are heavier and he suffers greater extremes of fatigue and discomfort than the other arms.Thirdly,the art of the Infantryman is less stereotyped and harder to acquire than that of any other arm".
    -- Field Marshall Earl Wavell.1948

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    Quote Originally Posted by The real Jack View Post
    journos here's your opportunity to actually do something useful....
    Of all of the difficulties that exist for people in the DF, brown boots is pretty low down the pecking order. In fact I would say it rates a 1/10 on the radar.

    Sort the real problems : pay, retention & continuity in appointments first. Boots? I never gave a fiddlers about which colour boots I have on my feet, in the barracks, the Glen, Africa, Middle East or anywhere else

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fantasia View Post
    Of all of the difficulties that exist for people in the DF, brown boots is pretty low down the pecking order. In fact I would say it rates a 1/10 on the radar.

    Sort the real problems : pay, retention & continuity in appointments first. Boots? I never gave a fiddlers about which colour boots I have on my feet, in the barracks, the Glen, Africa, Middle East or anywhere else

    MOD:Good for you. The Gods make their own importance.If you want to discuss any of those issues you feel passionate about feel free to start threads.Other than that THIS thread is to discuss improvements.or lack of,in the current and future soldiers uniform,hence posters can post on that subject to their heart's content.
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    -- Field Marshall Earl Wavell.1948

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    Quote Originally Posted by apod View Post
    That's a fairly negative attitude. IMHO we should have a similar appointment here also.BTW the idea is not unique to them.Common practice in a lot of major Armies.

    But that's beside the point I was trying to make anyway.
    Not negative. Just pragmatic. The point I was making is the DoD don't care what they do.. They make their own decisions

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    DoD will always do what they like.Should that prevent us from trying to innovate or at least TRY to emulate international best practice?

    Anyway.Going off topic.

    Love to know what is going on with the DFCC.Nothing on IKON in ages. Connect newsletter is useless.All we have is rumour and conjecture.lads are going out and spending their hard earned cash on black boots when they might become obsolete and unable to re sell overnight if we go brown. ANY news at all to say which way we are going would be helpful.

    So much for improving internal comms.
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    -- Field Marshall Earl Wavell.1948

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    Quote Originally Posted by apod View Post
    2,000 pairs being delivered soon. EUTM Mali getting them first,then the upcoming UNDOF and UNIFIL rotations.
    Still unsure what model.Haix scout was trialled on island and in the Leb.But the last rotation to Mali were issued Haix Nepals(AKA french Army CCE boot).
    Quote Originally Posted by holdfast View Post
    Yes they are to be issued.
    Looks like wrong again. For some reason the UNDOF rotation departed without and UNIFIL will follow suit shortly.

    DF Logs and procurement at its best again.

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    Yup.
    I would dearly love to know how their "logic" works .
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    Quote Originally Posted by apod View Post
    Yup.
    I would dearly love to know how their "logic" works .
    Ridiculous situation.

    If rumours are to be believed they have sufficient stock in stores but someone along the way is blocking the move. Silly carry on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck View Post
    Ridiculous situation.

    If rumours are to be believed they have sufficient stock in stores but someone along the way is blocking the move. Silly carry on.
    I am led to believe that UNDOF was never due to be issued at this time but M.B pushed for them and got nowhere.UNIFIL WERE supposed to get them.Got that from the horses mouth.
    Told recently that sizes are a problem at the moment.
    What stinks is that when they do go on issue one boot is supposedly replacing both Barrack boot (magnum) and OPs boot(haix).And by one boot I mean One pair of the new boots per person. How that is supposed to work is anybodies guess. Lads are still going to be shelling out to buy a second pair just to have a pair for barracks and one for the field.

    Ridiculous.
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    -- Field Marshall Earl Wavell.1948

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    Hopefully the troops who wear steel toe cap boots will be allowed continue to wear the black versions, until a brown version is sourced, even if it causes uniformity issues..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exile View Post
    Hopefully the troops who wear steel toe cap boots will be allowed continue to wear the black versions, until a brown version is sourced, even if it causes uniformity issues..
    ACTUALLY.............

    There is a new device being trialled that clips on over the toecap of the normal boot for those who need the extra protection. The DF is moving away from having to buy multiple different types of boot. AFAIK in future we will just be issued a pair of Linkers for ceremonial and a Pair of Haix Scouts for everything else. No more safe toe boots being bought.

    As an aside has anybody,anywhere seen hide nor hair of any of the new DPM items going on issue?

    I would have thought they would have started coming through by now(they can keep the new shirt.Puke)
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    Quote Originally Posted by apod View Post
    ACTUALLY.............

    There is a new device being trialled that clips on over the toecap of the normal boot for those who need the extra protection. The DF is moving away from having to buy multiple different types of boot. AFAIK in future we will just be issued a pair of Linkers for ceremonial and a Pair of Haix Scouts for everything else. No more safe toe boots being bought.

    As an aside has anybody,anywhere seen hide nor hair of any of the new DPM items going on issue?

    I would have thought they would have started coming through by now(they can keep the new shirt.Puke)
    Im told we have those type of overshoes in work (havent seen them myself), but an excellent idea

    Ive seen someone wearing the new issue smock.... whole design stupid imho

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    Ive seen someone wearing the new issue smock.... whole design stupid imho
    Until you factor in the smock has been future-proofed to be worn under the future GSBA.(mandarin collar,tighter fit,no chest pockets)

    Was that recently? Anybody see the new trousers yet?
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    -- Field Marshall Earl Wavell.1948

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    Quote Originally Posted by apod View Post
    ACTUALLY.............

    There is a new device being trialled that clips on over the toecap of the normal boot for those who need the extra protection. The DF is moving away from having to buy multiple different types of boot. AFAIK in future we will just be issued a pair of Linkers for ceremonial and a Pair of Haix Scouts for everything else. No more safe toe boots being bought.

    As an aside has anybody,anywhere seen hide nor hair of any of the new DPM items going on issue?

    I would have thought they would have started coming through by now(they can keep the new shirt.Puke)
    I read your discription of the boots, and this is all I can think of...
    German 1: Private Schnutz, I have bad news for you.
    German 2: Private? I am a general!
    German 1: That is the bad news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apod View Post
    Until you factor in the smock has been future-proofed to be worn under the future GSBA.(mandarin collar,tighter fit,no chest pockets)

    Was that recently? Anybody see the new trousers yet?
    seen about 2 weeks ago

    It still looks all wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by apod View Post
    ACTUALLY.............

    There is a new device being trialled that clips on over the toecap of the normal boot for those who need the extra protection. The DF is moving away from having to buy multiple different types of boot. AFAIK in future we will just be issued a pair of Linkers for ceremonial and a Pair of Haix Scouts for everything else. No more safe toe boots being bought.

    As an aside has anybody,anywhere seen hide nor hair of any of the new DPM items going on issue?

    I would have thought they would have started coming through by now(they can keep the new shirt.Puke)
    Interesting. I've seen those in industry for short term site visitors on engineering sites. Id be worried about two things with that solution.

    1. The durability of the polymer fastener components in a mixed tactical/site work environment and
    2. They generally use aluminium or steel in the toe cap and having an external metallic sparking surface when toe protection is required while simultaneously working with explosives would have safety implications.

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    Finally issued some of the new T-shirts recently.A LOT more comfortable to wear and pong free thank god. Retrograde move on removing the Flag and Rank velcro.Pain in the rectum for the lads overseas who are now back to having to get their T-shirts tailored again for day to day use in Camp.

    One thing I did notice was the drying time after washing has increased when compared to the DPM version.Different material I know but have we sorted one problem by creating another? Flash burns from IED's are deadly but so is Hypothermia!!
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