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  • Shannon & US Military Aircraft

    Posted in Army section as this is an Irish army manned location during aircraft visits.

    On Tuesday night Shannon had another embarrassing security breach as two overnighting US Navy 737's were visited by graffiti artists and daubed with slogans. (Two offenders , one former DF officer and well known anti war noise maker)

    The aircraft were parked on a designated section of disused runway, with flood lighting and fencing. The site was manned(portacabins)by Irish Army personnel. The offenders still managed proceed with a repaint under their noses. Someone is having their interpretation of sentry/security detail redefined I'd imagine.

    Not a first time security breach at Shannon-Daly and Wallace had to call the tower by phone to tell them they were on the runway! A bit of a national embarrassment really.

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    DF personnel are in Shannon as an ATCP operation

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Jetjock View Post
      Posted in Army section as this is an Irish army manned location during aircraft visits.

      On Tuesday night Shannon had another embarrassing security breach as two overnighting US Navy 737's were visited by graffiti artists and daubed with slogans. (Two offenders , one former DF officer and well known anti war noise maker)

      The aircraft were parked on a designated section of disused runway, with flood lighting and fencing. The site was manned(portacabins)by Irish Army personnel. The offenders still managed proceed with a repaint under their noses. Someone is having their interpretation of sentry/security detail redefined I'd imagine.

      Not a first time security breach at Shannon-Daly and Wallace had to call the tower by phone to tell them they were on the runway! A bit of a national embarrassment really.
      National embarrassment but aiding several wars in the Middle East is okay. Hmmm

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      • #4
        Originally posted by ibenji View Post
        National embarrassment but aiding several wars in the Middle East is okay. Hmmm
        Are those wars going to stop if the US transits through another country instead of here?
        I'm sure at least some of our exports end up being used in military conflict as well, should we stop producing them?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by ibenji View Post
          National embarrassment but aiding several wars in the Middle East is okay. Hmmm
          Why you only care about wars that the US is involved with?

          As an aside do you know how the shinnerbots work? Do they pay ogra members phone bills or what?
          Last edited by The real Jack; 27 April 2017, 18:15.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by The real Jack View Post
            Why you only care about wars that the US is involved with?

            As an aside do you know how the shinnerbots work? Do they pay ogra members phone bills or what?
            Especially when they have a UN mandate

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            • #7
              just like that tanker theft in Dundalk...

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              • #8
                Originally posted by DeV View Post
                DF personnel are in Shannon as an ATCP operation
                Which asks questions about the Gardai, the Airport Police and the Airport Authority who are ultimately responsible for security at the airport. Once was an embarrassment, but the amount of times this has now happened is bordering on the ridiculous.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by The real Jack View Post
                  Why you only care about wars that the US is involved with?

                  As an aside do you know how the shinnerbots work? Do they pay ogra members phone bills or what?
                  The recent wars that the USA has been involved in have resulted in nothing but trouble for the world. Iraq, Afghanistan and aiding rebels in Syria has caused nothing but trouble for the world. It's a sad fact that some Muslim countries need dictators to keep some sort of law and order. Graffiti with red marker was not the worst thing to ever happen. Part of me feels that these trespassing despots should be made write it out one hundred times as punishment.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by ibenji View Post
                    The recent wars that the USA has been involved in have resulted in nothing but trouble for the world. Iraq, Afghanistan and aiding rebels in Syria has caused nothing but trouble for the world. It's a sad fact that some Muslim countries need dictators to keep some sort of law and order. Graffiti with red marker was not the worst thing to ever happen. Part of me feels that these trespassing despots should be made write it out one hundred times as punishment.
                    So why aren't you protesting outside the Saudi embassy when they're causing a famine in Yemen on top of the slaughter? You're not protesting the Ukrainian or russian shelling of civilian areas in Ukraine or any other of the countless wars currently ongoing? No protest against Chechen concentration camps for gays or slaves in the middle East? No they're not the low hanging fruit to grab attention, ye don't bother turning in paedos in the SF/IRA ranks either.
                    Last edited by The real Jack; 28 April 2017, 01:06.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by CTU View Post
                      Which asks questions about the Gardai, the Airport Police and the Airport Authority who are ultimately responsible for security at the airport. Once was an embarrassment, but the amount of times this has now happened is bordering on the ridiculous.
                      Absolutely. There is a lot of ground to cover before you get anywhere near the "secure" parking area. There is also a lot of perimeter fence to patrol with a distinct lack of technology employed.

                      As for the Portacabin dwellers....You had one job...not the DF's finest moment.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Jetjock View Post

                        As for the Portacabin dwellers....You had one job...not the DF's finest moment.
                        Which as I said is ATCP and therefore the aircraft are legally not what the DF are protecting

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by DeV View Post
                          Which as I said is ATCP and therefore the aircraft are legally not what the DF are protecting
                          ATCP or ATCA? Not always a Garda vehicle present.

                          Call it what you like anyway there is a very small specific section of tarmac, fenced and with bi-directional flood lights on which the DF/Gardai provide security. Some gobshites managed to paint slogans on foreign military aircraft on this small section of tarmac right under their noses. Nobody comes out of this smelling of roses.
                          Last edited by Jetjock; 28 April 2017, 09:46.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Jetjock View Post
                            ATCP or ATCA? Not always a Garda vehicle present.

                            Call it what you like anyway there is a very small specific section of tarmac, fenced and with bi-directional flood lights on which the DF/Gardai provide security. Some gobshites managed to paint slogans on foreign military aircraft on this small section of tarmac right under their noses. Nobody comes out of this smelling of roses.
                            Gotta say I agree. At a time when the media are making hay with security (or lack of) arrangements at Dublin Airport, this incident makes those responsible for airport security look like complete plonkers
                            Last edited by Truck Driver; 30 April 2017, 10:29.
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                            • #15
                              These are the facts.

                              1/ Two protestors(one with previous military experience) breached the airport perimeter. Who's responsible?: APO's
                              2/ Said protestors cover the significant distance from the perimeter to the security area to utilising the cover of darkness and overgrown grass(both were soaked when detained) Responsible?: APO's and Airport management.

                              3/ Said protestors observe the DF patrol and infiltrate to aircraft A when the patrol was down by aircraft B ( a nice distance).Patrol IMMEDIATELY reacts and issue challenge when infiltrators spotted. Protestor A offers violence to DF patrol .Minimum force used to flatten protestor. Both protestors detained by DF. Responsible?: AGS who were inside the portacabin(as usual) and had to be sent for.AGS are responsible for the aircraft and should be the first line.DF are only there in support.But yet again we caught the infiltrators.
                              Moral.
                              1/ Don't believe everything the papers portray.
                              2/ AGS need to get off their arse and do their job properly.
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