2017 Cadet class

[apod]

whaaat but thats shite

Yup.100% shit.

[hptmurphy]

The DF is going to s**t because we have kids instructing Kids with no experience behind them

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Dunno about that, Wifes cousin is gone in as a cadet with three years 12bn behind him..hardly a red arse, good switihed on youngfella. Chances are from 108 cadets some will have made the jump from the ranks.

[na grohmiti]

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Dunno about that, Wifes cousin is gone in as a cadet with three years 12bn behind him..hardly a red arse, good switihed on youngfella. Chances are from 108 cadets some will have made the jump from the ranks.

Some doing so because it was the only way to remain in the DF and still be able to afford to live.

[apod]

They are in the minority.Trust me.
We have people promoted on a friday and sent to the College on a monday to instruct.In any other Army in the world there is no way that would be allowed.
You need to have walked the walk to talk the talk.
Utter madness.

[hptmurphy]

They are in the minority.Trust me.
We have people promoted on a friday and sent to the College on a monday to instruct.In any other Army in the world there is no way that would be allowed.
You need to have walked the walk to talk the talk.
Utter madness.

Its no way unique in the army, believe me, I've seen a nurse qualified two days left in charge of a facility because he was the only one available and because he received his certification 24hrs before his colleague.

So should secondment to training establishments be mandatory rather that voluntary to deal with the shortage of suitably qualified people?

is the tail wagging the dog?

[X-RayOne]

Mandatory secondments might solve the problem regarding shortage of suitably qualified personnel but would only further increase shortages in Bn's etc.

Bigger issue is systemic under staffing of the DF as a whole and retention. Mandatory secondments may also be the final push that fed up senior NCO's might need to make the decision to leave also, further reducing experienced numbers.

[barrybadrinah]

They are in the minority.Trust me.
We have people promoted on a friday and sent to the College on a monday to instruct.In any other Army in the world there is no way that would be allowed.
You need to have walked the walk to talk the talk.
Utter madness.

Much the same across the water my man, much the same.

[hptmurphy]

Mandatory secondments may also be the final push that fed up senior NCO's might need to make the decision to leave also, further reducing experienced numbers.

But if that creates career vacancies for people not so fed up is that actually a bad thing?

Poor morale will cause more problems than lack of experience, experience can be gained but, if people lose interest how do you motivate people to do the best at their work and gain the experience?

Restoration of pay would go along way towards re establishing some of the morale. But as within the rest of the public sector the changes have been so cutting that elements of the morale and the knowledge that should things take a turn for the worst we will always be in the firing line, irreparable damage has been done.

[Truck Driver]

But if that creates career vacancies for people not so fed up is that actually a bad thing?

Poor morale will cause more problems than lack of experience, experience can be gained but, if people lose interest how do you motivate people to do the best at their work and gain the experience?

Restoration of pay would go along way towards re establishing some of the morale. But as within the rest of the public sector the changes have been so cutting that elements of the morale and the knowledge that should things take a turn for the worst we will always be in the firing line, irreparable damage has been done.

Would argue that a better balance needs to be struck between maintaining force experience and freeing up vacancies for career progression for those coming from behind
Don't envy those who have to figure out how, mind you...