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  • #16
    there have been reports today that a comms bouy has been 'tracked' and that an Argentine ship, the ARA Admiral Browne has gone to investigate, but i've heard no follow up. there were other reports that HMS Protector had seen a series of orange and white flares and was trying to chase down their origin, but that the Argentine Navy said that the San Juan only carried red flares.

    there was another report that the USN had got a solid sonar strike on a 80m long object on the sea bed, but nothing appears to have come of that.

    the RN has sent a dozen underwater rescue stores pods and some Naval Liiason Officers to Argentina - they went on an RAF Voyager via a 12 hour flight from Brize. t'was not far off the Voyagers maximum range. the RN SPAG team have split into three - a small team with the survival stores pods in Argentina, a team on HMS Clyde which is doing maximum revolutions towards the search area, and another team at MPA with the C-130 and the parachute deployed gear.

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    • #17
      Seems the latest "rumour" of the P8 finding something close to where the last radio contact was has also been discounted now, I think we're still nowhere close to finding where she is...

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Sparky42 View Post
        Seems the latest "rumour" of the P8 finding something close to where the last radio contact was has also been discounted now, I think we're still nowhere close to finding where she is...
        i'm afraid you're right - the weather of the last week could have carried a powerless sub a long way even submerged. unless someone gets lucky with a MAD pass (600m search width), the only way it will get found is with seabed sonar, and that will take an age.

        theres still a missing French sub about 15(ish) miles off Toulon. she went down nearly 50 years ago and despite endless searches theres not been a trace of her. 300 miles out into the South Atlantic...?

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        • #19
          Sky News just put this up
          The blast, detected around the time the ARA San Juan sent its last signal, is described as "abnormal, singular, short, violent".

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          • #20
            Explosion sounds like battery failure. The rapid depressurisation that follows would be dramatic, given the depths involved in the area reported.
            For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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            • #21
              https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-navy-confirms

              The implosion could be similar as to what happened to the USS Scorpion, it sank below its crush depth and imploded (still gives a sound like an explosion even if in the other direction). We will have to wait and see if they ever find the wreck. The apparent short circuit of the batteries could have been an indication of a leak which when they again submerged became too great to counter.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by EUFighter View Post
                https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-navy-confirms

                The implosion could be similar as to what happened to the USS Scorpion, it sank below its crush depth and imploded (still gives a sound like an explosion even if in the other direction). We will have to wait and see if they ever find the wreck. The apparent short circuit of the batteries could have been an indication of a leak which when they again submerged became too great to counter.
                Given they couldn't find its location when there was potentially life remaining and the cost of the rescue effort has probably bankrupt the Navy, I can't see them being in a hurry to try and find the remains of a 37 year old submarine, just in case they find out it could be anything preventable.

                Probably a token effort and take any others out of service on age grounds just in case.
                Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe

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                • #23
                  They just need to be able to mark the wreck for chart updates.
                  For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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                  • #24
                    May the 43 men and one lady who lost their lives Rest in Peace.

                    Sad news...God help their families.
                    'History is a vast early warning system'. Norman Cousins

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by spider View Post
                      May the 43 men and one lady who lost their lives Rest in Peace.

                      Sad news...God help their families.
                      The only positive one can hope to draw from this is it comes as a huge wake-up call the people of Argentina to the state of Armada de la República Argentina. Up to now ships have sunk at their berths, been stranded overseas for lack of spares, and in 2007, its Ice patrol ship experienced a fire from which it has yet to return to service.
                      For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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