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    Completely different needs from a boot used in the NS. They have always had different boots to the rest of the DF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeV View Post


    Because they need to be fire retardant
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    Completely different needs from a boot used in the NS. They have always had different boots to the rest of the DF.
    Your arguements are invalid.

    What about Aircrew, Vehicle crew, Infantry in Riot scenario with petrol bombs


    Oh look, they also come in brown too! Imagine that
    http://www.militarybootsdirect.com/b...s-340-des.html


    These boots are constructed of Nomex Flame Resistant that will provide a protective layer against flame and fire hazards.

    The 340 DES is also Army Combat Uniform Approved, Army Flight Approved, and Army Combat Vehicle Approved.

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    Big difference between fire retardant and fire proof

    I don’t see any navy (worldwide) going about their daily business in Fire Brigade style boots

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    Why cant the Naval Service (less than 1,000 people) be the same brown as everyone else (Army, Air Corps, ARW). It would be a hell of a lot cheaper and more uniform across the entire DF!

    Sure that would make sense so it wont happen!
    Because a brown boot would look really stooopid when worn with a Navy,blue and gey DPM pattern.
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    Quote Originally Posted by apod View Post
    Because a brown boot would look really stooopid when worn with a Navy,blue and gey DPM pattern.
    And the current blue

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    Quote Originally Posted by apod View Post
    Because a brown boot would look really stooopid when worn with a Navy,blue and gey DPM pattern.
    No more stoopid than the idea of Navy, Blue and Grey DPM. They can both be stoopid together. It has been done before!

    https://authorizedboots.com/wp-conte...ts-of-2017.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by TangoSierra View Post
    Big difference between fire retardant and fire proof

    I don’t see any navy (worldwide) going about their daily business in Fire Brigade style boots
    There is no such thing as fire proof....everything will burn if enough heat is applied....
    Time for another break I think......

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    Quote Originally Posted by apod View Post
    Because a brown boot would look really stooopid when worn with a Navy,blue and gey DPM pattern.
    ...but we have navy peeps dress in Army DPM ...so why is the boot in appropriate when wearing that rig?
    Time for another break I think......

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    Quote Originally Posted by hptmurphy View Post
    There is no such thing as fire proof....everything will burn if enough heat is applied....
    Wool.
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    Apply enough heat any thing will burn!

    Wool has an ignition temperature of between 570 and 600 degrees... it will burn!
    Last edited by hptmurphy; 17th July 2019 at 14:57.
    Time for another break I think......

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    Fire triangle

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    Quote Originally Posted by hptmurphy View Post
    ...but we have navy peeps dress in Army DPM ...so why is the boot in appropriate when wearing that rig?
    Because once the Vanity project that is NSV- DPM goes on issue they wont be wearing Army DPM anymore,with the exception of NS types deploying on Land based Missions overseas or on the likes of SOFQ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeV View Post
    Fire triangle
    Yeah.... having served as an airport firefighter for 6 years ( CAA Qualified) I'm familiar with the concept... hence everything will burn!

    Because once the Vanity project that is NSV- DPM goes on issue
    Is it a wish or reality?
    Time for another break I think......

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    Slight topic derailment but is that navy dpm actually going on issue? That has been bouncing around for years.
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    Sadly.It's a reality. Should be on trial now with one ships company.
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    Quote Originally Posted by apod View Post
    Sadly.It's a reality. Should be on trial now with one ships company.
    One of the ones with no crew

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    Anyone else remember the Navy combats when everyone else wore og? I seem to remember a navy smock was on issue for a time also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by na grohmiti View Post
    Anyone else remember the Navy combats when everyone else wore og? I seem to remember a navy smock was on issue for a time also.
    Yeah. I remember a center spread in the Connect showing them off as NSR Dress alongside the DPMs for the AR when the DPM's were first issued to the RDF.
    Nothing wrong with them as far as i could see.
    Reasonably smart and practical(open to correction).

    The NSV DPM is going to be a joke and a massive PR Faux Pas for the NS in the Current climate("NS can afford to spend X amount on new fancy uniforms they don't need when sailors are living on the ships alongside etc etc").

    Yes.The NS uniform badly needed updating but this was not the way to go.
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    I always associate the blue DPM uniforms with (slightly dodgy) South Asian police forces, rather than Naval uniform.
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    Even further back I remeber a time when OG was on issue to the NS, the purists went mad...
    Time for another break I think......

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