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    Quote Originally Posted by Auldsod View Post
    Again, the most surprising thing for me is that this wasn't an issue for the RDFRA until now....

    Should have been on the radar years ago.
    To be honest until you raised it nobody here noticed that we were being underpaid.

    I don't know what RDFRA's current relationship with C&A is like but I can tell how pay rates were communicated in the past. The DOD would simply email or post a copy of the rates they had agreed with PDFORRA and RACO (like the ones you provided the link to) and it was a take or leave it scenario.

    That was fine when our pay was pegged to the PDF. Now that it has been separated, RDFRA needs to have its own pay negotiations talks. That or restore the parity.

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    In fairness, it’s probably take it or leave it for PDF as well except when they go to C&A on Allowances

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    That was fine when our pay was pegged to the PDF. Now that it has been separated, RDFRA needs to have its own pay negotiations talks. That or restore the parity.
    I believe it still is !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bravo20 View Post
    To be honest until you raised it nobody here noticed that we were being underpaid.
    So, what do RDFRA do? I would believe that pay would be one of the fundamental tasks of a union/representative association. I mean, I'm in a Union at work that would stage a countrywide shut down if they found 1 member was being paid 1 cent less than they should. Because pay is a fundamental task for Unions.

    So what do RDFRA do?

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    I thought from the outset the RDFRA were not permitted (by statute) to negotiate on matters relating to pay and operational matters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by na grohmitÃ* View Post
    I thought from the outset the RDFRA were not permitted (by statute) to negotiate on matters relating to pay and operational matters.
    Operational matters, yes, but that has never stopped them in the past.

    Pay - rate of pay, yes, not being paid the right amount - No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poiuyt View Post
    Operational matters, yes, but that has never stopped them in the past.

    Pay - rate of pay, yes, not being paid the right amount - No.
    Unless the lower rate is the 'right amount' according to the DoD.

    I'll be interested to see where this goes anyway. I've heard nothing material back anyway.

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    Pay is right in the centre of matters in scope for representation under Schedule II of S7
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    Well the issue has made it to the Joint Oireachtas Committee on .... Defence

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