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  • #16
    42 Commando was reroled (they are no longer an infantry type unit like 40 & 45)
    42 Commando Royal Marines are one of three elite battalion sized units which make up the global punch of 3 Commando Brigade.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by DeV View Post
      42 Commando was reroled (they are no longer an infantry type unit like 40 & 45)
      https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/our-org...de/42-commando
      Interesting, that genuinely passed me by. Surprised to see a Golden Calf like the RMs taking a cut. Seems to be billed as re-role but there are also cuts to RM so that's where the move really lies. 43 Commando obviously struggling to resource its fleet protection role so a reduced 42 Commando is taking over. In 1989, the British has 6 'elite' infantry units (RM and Paras). Five battalions remaining twenty years later probably isn't that bad a result. I'm sure 42 Commando could be quickly re-roled as infantry and brought up to strength with Royal Marines Reserve if required anyway.

      Sorry, serious thread drift!

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Auldsod View Post
        Interesting, that genuinely passed me by. Surprised to see a Golden Calf like the RMs taking a cut. Seems to be billed as re-role but there are also cuts to RM so that's where the move really lies. 43 Commando obviously struggling to resource its fleet protection role so a reduced 42 Commando is taking over. In 1989, the British has 6 'elite' infantry units (RM and Paras). Five battalions remaining twenty years later probably isn't that bad a result. I'm sure 42 Commando could be quickly re-roled as infantry and brought up to strength with Royal Marines Reserve if required anyway.

        Sorry, serious thread drift!
        43 Cdo is still there too

        1 Para became the bulk of SFSG

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        • #19
          42 CDO is still perfectly capable of carrying out a 'Cdo Bn' role - it's people are farmed out, but enough are centrally located to form a nucleus of HQ Coy and two rifle Coys, and 43 CDO and the 'fat' within the RM can bulk it out if neccessary. There are also contingency plans for it to be reinforced by Inf Pln's and a support weapons Coy.

          In addition 3 CDO Bde has XXX CDO GRP - another Bn sized asset. 7RHA are able to donate a 105mm Bty, and other 105mm Btys within the wider RA have been worked up with exercises with the Bde and the Amphibious fleet.

          If we need to we can deploy 3X with four full CDO Bn's and the associated artillery - it's almost as if we have a brain and have worked through potential problems and worked out solutions to them...

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          • #20
            Originally posted by ropebag View Post
            42 CDO is still perfectly capable of carrying out a 'Cdo Bn' role - it's people are farmed out, but enough are centrally located to form a nucleus of HQ Coy and two rifle Coys, and 43 CDO and the 'fat' within the RM can bulk it out if neccessary. There are also contingency plans for it to be reinforced by Inf Pln's and a support weapons Coy.

            In addition 3 CDO Bde has XXX CDO GRP - another Bn sized asset. 7RHA are able to donate a 105mm Bty, and other 105mm Btys within the wider RA have been worked up with exercises with the Bde and the Amphibious fleet.

            If we need to we can deploy 3X with four full CDO Bn's and the associated artillery - it's almost as if we have a brain and have worked through potential problems and worked out solutions to them...
            Good that’s positive

            But like many other things they don’t have the ability to do 2 jobs in 2 places at the same time and do they train continuously in the ability to deploy as a fully manned combat Bde.

            The Russian bear is threatening

            It isn’t the soldiers/marines fault



            It is the most commonly needed, rapidly deployed and deployed British military assets that have been reduced in size. 7RHA also only has 2 Btys to support the 2 Para inf Bns (the 3rd Bn in 16 AA Bde being Gurkhas). Absolutely batteries and battalions can be found elsewhere but train as you expect to fight and be held at high readiness.

            This isn’t intended as Brit bashing btw it’s politicians that are the issue.
            Last edited by DeV; 21 February 2019, 19:09.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by DeV View Post
              43 Cdo is still there too

              1 Para became the bulk of SFSG
              I know 43 Commando is still there. Just a more focused role on guarding the nukes.

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