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    [real] line throwing...

    Aren't the SLRs used for throwing lines or is that old info?

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    When did we adopt or even use the SLR, or are we giving a sop to the Dup on imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul g View Post
    When did we adopt or even use the SLR, or are we giving a sop to the Dup on imo
    The cover of the FN FAL manual describes it as a Self Loading Rifle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poiuyt View Post
    Aren't the SLRs used for throwing lines or is that old info?
    Any rifle adapted to take a line throwing projectile and a single propellant cartridge can be used. As pointed out below SLR is a generic name for any self loading rifle. The term Semi- Automatic Rifle or SAR can also be used. Neither acronym indicate a make such as FN , Steyr , Sterling etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ancientmariner View Post
    Any rifle adapted to take a line throwing projectile and a single propellant cartridge can be used. As pointed out below SLR is a generic name for any self loading rifle. The term Semi- Automatic Rifle or SAR can also be used. Neither acronym indicate a make such as FN , Steyr , Sterling etc.
    Why was FN retained (with the NS as the single user until the Spotter rifle came in) for the role, instead of the Steyr?

    7.62mm = more propellant ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeV View Post
    Why was FN retained (with the NS as the single user until the Spotter rifle came in) for the role, instead of the Steyr?

    7.62mm = more propellant ?
    i think its because of the length of the rifle, in that when you shoot the line carrying projectile theres a big cloud of crap expelled that you wouldn't want going off next to your face as it would do with a bullpup design - so you use a conventional design rifle thats as long as possible in order to keep said crap as far awa from you as possible. i think the USN still uses the M14 for such things...

    i don't suppose the larger charge is a handicap either, given the weight of the projectile and the line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeV View Post
    Why was FN retained (with the NS as the single user until the Spotter rifle came in) for the role, instead of the Steyr?

    7.62mm = more propellant ?
    The matching bits and pieces for line throwing were only FN compatible and as you say more bang with 7.62mm

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    Also there was probably no need to change it. You already had the weapons with all the associated kit. It wouldn't get the same level of abuse as an operational steyr so would have a longer life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul g View Post
    When did we adopt or even use the SLR, or are we giving a sop to the Dup on imo
    The particular SLR I was referring to was adopted in the 60's and is still in use in the Irish Defence Forces as a DMR.

    I had to look up the word Dup. Collin English Dictionary says Dup is a verb meaning "to open". Not sure how that is relevant to anything. If you were referring to the DUP (capital letters), again, not sure how that is relevant to anything. Happy to listen to what it is you are trying to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ancientmariner View Post
    The matching bits and pieces for line throwing were only FN compatible and as you say more bang with 7.62mm
    I do remember seeing a .303 being used for line trowing , it even had a pistol grip , not sure if it was on Emer or Eithne .
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    [QUOTE=Poiuyt;466552]The particular SLR I was referring to was adopted in the 60's and is still in use in the Irish Defence Forces as a DMR. QUOTE]

    Video on the FAL from CMM at the end of this piece

    https://www.quora.com/What-countries...use-the-FN-FAL
    Last edited by EUFighter; 7th March 2019 at 18:19.

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    When N. Montserrat, of The Cruel Sea fame, released his first book, which was published while the war was on, sailors having read the particular work, began referring to him as "Schermuly", a line throwing apparatus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turkey View Post
    When N. Montserrat, of The Cruel Sea fame, released his first book, which was published while the war was on, sailors having read the particular work, began referring to him as "Schermuly", a line throwing apparatus.

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    Yes we had them on each of the corvettes. The projectile was heavy solid metal with a fitted stirrup with an asbestos lanyard to which you attached your orangey light line. You aimed to fire over the receiving ship as the weight would be capable of killing a person struck by same, or smashing a few windows. Receiving crew always took cover until line dropped across the ship. The asbestos was to prevent the line being burnt through by the launching ignition.

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    In WW 2 British slang, a "line-shooter" was a bluffer, telling tall tales and it was the habit in some units such as the RAF to have a "line shooter's book" to record (and penalise) outrageous bullshit; "so, there I was, nothing on the clock, except the maker's name,etc,etc"....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laners View Post
    I do remember seeing a .303 being used for line trowing , it even had a pistol grip , not sure if it was on Emer or Eithne .
    Theres a piccy of Joe Hickey on one of the Facebook websites as a L/Sea on Deirdre witha pre SMLE line throwing rifle.

    Also there was probably no need to change it. You already had the weapons with all the associated kit. It wouldn't get the same level of abuse as an operational steyr so would have a longer life.
    The matching bits and pieces for line throwing were only FN compatible and as you say more bang with 7.62mm
    bit of both.

    The FN FAL was the service weapon using the manufacturers name.. the term SLR .. Self Loading Rifle while synonomus with the L1A1 UKAF weapon is actually a description of the weapon type and not its name in service... check out the older 'BAP' manuals, it never referes to the name of the weapon on the cover but is titled 'The Manual of the Pistol' despite describing two weapons , both the Browning weapon and the Walther PPK, in the actual text.
    Time for another break I think......

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    schermuly rocket was a load of crap..could go anyway... the good old projectile shaped like a dildo was the real deal.. only a few knew you could take off orange cap to pass messages as well ..ballistite round gave a nice kick so cushion pad was put on rifle butt...

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