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Talking with a Brit, they ran into an interesting case when the Iraqis wanted to trade their Glocks for BAPs. They figured that if the British Army were using BAPs, they must be better than the Glocks that they had been issued with...
The US Army is taking a serious look at going back to .45ACP, after tests with a few modern calibres. Any word on what the new NATO pistol cartridge is likely to be for the rest of Europe?
NTMDriver, tracks, troops.... Drive and adjust!!
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Too MUCH TALK OVER Pistols. Any good double action will do. I carry a FEG in 9mm Makarov ( its basically a Walther PPK) while working in one country, some of my guys carry Makarovs ( excellent weapon , always fires but no fancy bits and pieces that seem to be the rage these days, One even carry a TT33 single action old but it works. For Home defence I have a model 36 Chiefs Special also easy for the wife to handle and in another countrey I carry a glock, why because I got a good deal --cheap. I have also over the years carried a Beretta, an Astra , and a BAP. Why do I prefer the FEG its light, ammo is very available and I dont fancy glocks , conservative on safeties etc.
For the Army: Gate keepers etc a good SW 357 revolver
Oil on the fire,
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Hands free kit?It was the year of fire...the year of destruction...the year we took back what was ours.
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Hi all
Don't let them find cracks and you can keep your beloved BAPs forever!! We NDT'd an 81mm mortar in the Don, once upon a time, and found lots of hairline cracks. That mortar and all of it's pals went to Irish Steel. By and by, I fired a 9mm Beretta and the 10mm/.40 version. The 9mm felt just right and the bigger one had too much recoil for comfort, although it made a bigger hole in the target.
regards
GttC
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US Giving up on 9mm, going back to .45
Not sure I like this. If you've got to go to a bigger round, how about a .40 or 357SIG? Special Forces and maybe infantry might like the bigger punch, but for my use, I'd rather have more smaller rounds to suppress while I run away.
NTM
Solicitation number : H92222-05-R-0017
Title : 10 -- Joint Combat Pistol (JCP) System
General Information
Document Type: Presolicitation Notice
Solicitation Number: H92222-05-R-0017
Posted Date: Aug 26, 2005
Original Response Date: Nov 29, 2005
Current Response Date: Nov 29, 2005
Original Archive Date: Oct 14, 2005
Current Archive Date: Oct 14, 2005
Classification Code: 10 -- Weapons
Naics Code: 332994 -- Small Arms Manufacturing
Contracting Office AddressOther Defense Agencies, U.S. Special Operations
Command, Headquarters Procurement Division, 7701 Tampa Point Blvd, MacDill
AFB, FL, 33621-5323
Description
The USSOCOM intends to issue a solicitation to obtain commercially available
non-developmental item (NDI) Joint Combat Pistol (JCP) system, Caliber .45
(ACP). The Program will use full and open competition to fulfill the JCP
requirement.
The JCP will be delivered in accordance with specification entitled
"Performance Specification Joint Combat Pistol" to be provided with issuance
of the solicitation.
Two configurations of the pistol will be required.
One configuration will have no external safety and the other configuration
will have an external safety.
The Combat Pistol System consists of: a Caliber .45 pistol and its ancillary
equipment including: Magazines (standard and high-capacity); Suppressor
Attachment Kit for operation of the pistol with and without sound
suppressor; Holster; Magazine Holder (standard and high-capacity); Cleaning
Kit; and Operator's Manual.
The contract type will be an Indefinite Delivery/Indefinite Quantity (IDIQ)
issuing Firm-Fixed Price (FFP) delivery orders. The contract period of
performance shall be Five (5)years with an option to extend for an
additional Five (5) years.
The Minimum Quantity is 24 each Engineering Test Units (ETU's), 12 each with
external manual safety and 12 each without external manual safety. The
estimated Maximum quantities are: 45,000 no external safety JCP
configuration and 600,000 JCP with the external safety configuration;
649,000 Holsters; 96,050 Standard Capacity Magazines; 192,099 High Capacity
Magazines; 667,000 Magazine Holders; 132,037 Suppressor attachment kits;
Provisioning Item Order, Technical Data Package and associated Data.
Transportation shall be F.O.B. Destination.
The solicitation will require, free of charge to the government, delivery of
24 each product samples along with a concise written proposal all due on the
closing date stated in the solicitation. The 24-each product sample from the
successful offeror may be accepted as the Minimum Quantity. Any subsequent
delivery orders for JCP's will order between 50 each and 200,000 each with a
maximum monthly delivery rate of 5,000 each.
Any subsequent orders for the ancillary items will require delivery to
commence within 60 days after receipt of order. The product samples and
written proposal will be evaluated on a best value basis and the Government
will reserve the right to award to other than the lowest priced offeror and
other than the highest technically rated offeror.
Product samples from unsuccessful offerors will be returned to the offerors
upon request and at the offeror's expense. The Government cannot guarantee
the condition of the product samples after testing.
All responsible sources may submit a proposal, which shall be considered by
the agency.
The Government intend to issue a draft solicitation. Notifications,
Solicitation, and other communication will be posted via FEDBIZOPS.
Questions may be emailed to Contract Specialist, Mr. Pfender at
john.pfender@navy.mil.
They combined the Future Handgun Sytem and SOF Combat Pistol programs for this.Driver, tracks, troops.... Drive and adjust!!
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Originally posted by California TankerNot sure I like this. If you've got to go to a bigger round, how about a .40 or 357SIG? Special Forces and maybe infantry might like the bigger punch, but for my use, I'd rather have more smaller rounds to suppress while I run away.Take these men and women for your example.
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