Of course that PPE (be it knee pads, goggles, body armour, helmet, ECM, ESST kit etc) also has to be designed to be lighter, smaller and more flexible.
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Originally posted by DeV View PostOf course that PPE (be it knee pads, goggles, body armour, helmet, ECM, ESST kit etc) also has to be designed to be lighter, smaller and more flexible.
Yes. Lighter SAPI plates would be nice,but I would also like to see a scalable system that allows Commanders the flexibility to decide if plates/soft armour are even needed for a specific task instead of the "You must wear the GSBA complete at all times"."Let us be clear about three facts. First, all battles and all wars are won in the end by the infantryman. Secondly, the infantryman always bears the brunt. His casualties are heavier, he suffers greater extremes of discomfort and fatigue than the other arms. Thirdly, the art of the infantryman is less stereotyped and far harder to acquire in modern war than that of any other arm." ------- Field Marshall Wavell, April 1945.
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Originally posted by apod View PostThat solves nothing.All they do is give you more stuff to carry then.(under the current mindset)
Yes. Lighter SAPI plates would be nice,but I would also like to see a scalable system that allows Commanders the flexibility to decide if plates/soft armour are even needed for a specific task instead of the "You must wear the GSBA complete at all times".
But to me (to a degree), Fight Light has become necessary due to overburdening the troops with heavy PPE
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Originally posted by DeV View PostAbsolutely!!!
But to me (to a degree), Fight Light has become necessary due to overburdening the troops with heavy PPE
Load carriage and PPE states should work in tandem .They are not mutually exclusive."Let us be clear about three facts. First, all battles and all wars are won in the end by the infantryman. Secondly, the infantryman always bears the brunt. His casualties are heavier, he suffers greater extremes of discomfort and fatigue than the other arms. Thirdly, the art of the infantryman is less stereotyped and far harder to acquire in modern war than that of any other arm." ------- Field Marshall Wavell, April 1945.
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But you also face the ongoing issue of blame and responsibility. Force Commander looks at intelligence, sees no issue and allows the force to fight light. Someone gets killed - all the intell in the world won't save him or her if the media decide to make an issue of it. Easiest option is just play it safe.
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Originally posted by spider View Post75 years ago the infantry were clearing streets carrying nothing but water bottles and helmets.
Spare ammo / bombs were carried in their trouser pockets'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
'Unselfishly so we might have today!'
Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
http://www.salamanderoasis.org/poems...nnis/luck.html
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Originally posted by na grohmit� View PostTom hanks fought the germans in normandy with just a water bottle...'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
'Unselfishly so we might have today!'
Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
http://www.salamanderoasis.org/poems...nnis/luck.html
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Originally posted by Poiuyt View PostBut you also face the ongoing issue of blame and responsibility. Force Commander looks at intelligence, sees no issue and allows the force to fight light. Someone gets killed - all the intell in the world won't save him or her if the media decide to make an issue of it. Easiest option is just play it safe.
What need to happen is set a baselevel for PPE that you don't go below,whilst having a scalable system and the doctrine and CSS to support it. Having said that if set a baslevel for PPE then FL is a must as you HAVE to reduce all the other kit you carry to offset the weight."Let us be clear about three facts. First, all battles and all wars are won in the end by the infantryman. Secondly, the infantryman always bears the brunt. His casualties are heavier, he suffers greater extremes of discomfort and fatigue than the other arms. Thirdly, the art of the infantryman is less stereotyped and far harder to acquire in modern war than that of any other arm." ------- Field Marshall Wavell, April 1945.
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