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What should you carry.....
Reading over this thread there seems to be an awful of 'just in case' kit being included as standard by many people.
Having always been the guy who brought fcuk all into the field I find this an odd development,
So, I'm raising the question, what are the items of kit that you really really need and would be simply up shit creek and paddleless without,
Lets assume for arguments sake you're making up your loadout to go off to war not to the glen, you've got the uniform you are wearing, your boots, weapon(+bayonet), helmet and CBA, load carrying kit and ammo.
What else should you carry?
I'll start the ball rolling with an incomplete list
Canteen and crusader cup, and spork. this covers dining, do without a stove of whatever sort you like, you will either eat cold rats or get how grub given to you
Cleaning kit
Spare socks
Poncho to cover the need for wetgear and act as your shelter
Torch
What else needs to be included?Last edited by CS Gass; 6 April 2010, 17:20.
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Originally posted by CS Gass View PostReading over this thread there seems to be an awful of 'just in case' kit being included as standard by many people.
Having always been the guy who brought fcuk all into the field I find this an odd development,
So, I'm raising the question, what are the items of kit that you really really need and would be simply up shit creek and paddleless without,
Lets assume for arguments sake you're making up your loadout to go off to war not to the glen, you've got the uniform you are wearing, your boots, weapon(+bayonet), helmet and CBA, load carrying kit and ammo.
What else should you carry?
I'll start the ball rolling with an incomplete list
Canteen and crusader cup, and spork. this covers dining, do without a stove of whatever sort you like, you will either eat cold rats or get how grub given to you
Cleaning kit
Spare socks
Poncho to cover wetgear and your shelter
Torch
What else needs to be included?Everyone who's ever loved you was wrong.
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Originally posted by SwiftandSure View PostOr Haribo Starmix AKA Morale in a Bag!
It was too big to hold a biro, and too small for anything else.
Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.
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Originally posted by The real Jack View PostDitch the canteen, you should have got yourself a camelback/platypus...use normal water bottles for extra water(ie ballygowen bottles)!
Never ditch a canteen!"The Question is not: how far you will take this? The Question is do you possess the constitution to go as far as is needed?"
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Originally posted by CS Gass View PostReading over this thread there seems to be an awful of 'just in case' kit being included as standard by many people.
Having always been the guy who brought fcuk all into the field I find this an odd development,
So, I'm raising the question, what are the items of kit that you really really need and would be simply up shit creek and paddleless without,
Lets assume for arguments sake you're making up your loadout to go off to war not to the glen, you've got the uniform you are wearing, your boots, weapon(+bayonet), helmet and CBA, load carrying kit and ammo.
What else should you carry?
I'll start the ball rolling with an incomplete list
Canteen and crusader cup, and spork. this covers dining, do without a stove of whatever sort you like, you will either eat cold rats or get how grub given to you
Cleaning kit
Spare socks
Poncho to cover wetgear and your shelter
Torch
What else needs to be included?"Let us be clear about three facts. First, all battles and all wars are won in the end by the infantryman. Secondly, the infantryman always bears the brunt. His casualties are heavier, he suffers greater extremes of discomfort and fatigue than the other arms. Thirdly, the art of the infantryman is less stereotyped and far harder to acquire in modern war than that of any other arm." ------- Field Marshall Wavell, April 1945.
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Originally posted by CS Gass View PostI think you missed what I was getting at, I was trying to provoke a debate on what people really need on the ground. There's a lot of useful kit out there I'm not denying that I just feel that weight often trumps the usefulness of any object.Everyone who's ever loved you was wrong.
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Lets face it if you read accounts from Vietnam, Korea, World War two etc you'll see how light the guys try to be.
If you take a host of experiences as a general guide,
They ate cold rats in the field, unless they were in a position whereby hot food was supplied or a fire could be made to cook with
You do without hot drinks unless the facility to brew it presented itself, We're not the British Army
You sleep in a hole in the ground with your weapon to keep you warm and maybe a blanket
You dont begin each day with a shower, shave and a nice clean uniform
Once you have, boots, a weapon, ammo and rats you're good to go. I'm not saying I'm some tough guy I just think this is what we should model ourselves off not inspector gadget
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Originally posted by CS Gass View PostYou do without hot drinks unless the facility to brew it presented itself, We're not the British Army'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
'Unselfishly so we might have today!'
Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
http://www.salamanderoasis.org/poems...nnis/luck.html
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