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  1. 2nd June 2004, 18:58 #26
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    and you know with your vast experience?

    and what if your hungry?

    and does a bear sh1t in the woods?
    Over the centuries, mankind has tried many ways of combating the forces of evil...prayer, fasting, good works and so on. Up until Doom, no one seemed to have thought about the double-barrel shotgun. Eat leaden death, demon...

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    Camo cream, bush hat, zippo, leatherman, camera, note book, pen, pencil, nd for exercise's, as much ammo as i can get my filthy little hands on.
    I miss goldie.
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  3. 2nd June 2004, 19:10 #28
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    I never said that was all you carry in your smock.
    I offered a suggestion, and I assumed that your previous post "Survive (cant spell) from your smock" covered food.
    You'd be surprised that most soldiers are intelligent enough to understand...... Why cant you? :p
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    TM 201 sets out what you should have in your smock, check the appendices

    Failing that download the Connect poster on Admin in the Field <b>here</b>
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  5. 2nd June 2004, 20:11 #30
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    true, it does, but as GF said if you've got a second smock for those hot summer nights ...

    TM201 is getting on a bit now but that appendix is damn useful .


    yer KFS can go in a pocket or hang a spoon round your neck

    My leatherman normally goes in the compass pocket , tac aide on the inside zip

    kfs and maglite , ziplocked lighter and fags in the pockets, peltor and small mapcase w/compass tied on inside in left pocket, field dressing in field dressing pocket

    I find I can't move fast with anything more than the map in the trous

    the rest is a good balance between what's needed and wanted.
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  6. 2nd June 2004, 20:55 #31
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    Originally posted by trellheim

    I find I can't move fast with anything more than the map in the trous
    same here but you have an advantage

    you can just have your batman carry it for you...
    Over the centuries, mankind has tried many ways of combating the forces of evil...prayer, fasting, good works and so on. Up until Doom, no one seemed to have thought about the double-barrel shotgun. Eat leaden death, demon...

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  7. 2nd June 2004, 23:40 #32
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    now now ....
    "Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "

    "No, they're trying to fly the tank"
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  8. 3rd June 2004, 01:48 #33
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    <font face="tahoma" color="#ff9900">Annex C to TM201 Manual of Infantry Pl and Section Tactics.

    Ask your NCO for a copy.

    A recent copy of Connect had a massive Poster on admin in the Field.

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  9. 3rd June 2004, 22:53 #34
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    Would my NCO give me annex C?
    Another question why are we (average grunt) not given these manuals?
    surely we could find them as useful as the NCO's and PNCO's do

    If I asked my NCO could he give me a copy of TM201?
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  10. 4th June 2004, 00:38 #35
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    No. It is not necessary for each person in a company to have a copy of the manual. Once the NCO's have a copy of it, and plan their lessons with the manual. I am guessing you have never seen TM201. Its huge, not very cost effective to give 1 copy to everybody.
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  11. 4th June 2004, 05:42 #36
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    I have seen it and I know its big I just think it would be good to have the manual. But would my NCO at least give me a copy of annex C
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  12. 4th June 2004, 05:48 #37
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    try asking him/her/it.....
    You're even dumber than I tell people

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  13. 4th June 2004, 05:50 #38
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    Would it not be easier for everyone involved if one of the NCO's on this site sent you a copy of it by email?
    To close with and kill the enemy in all weather conditions, night and day and over any terrain
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  14. 4th June 2004, 06:31 #39
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    Havoc's right any NCO e-mail me a copy of tm201 annex-c please
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  15. 4th June 2004, 06:38 #40
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    Any NCO doing that will be committing an offence of passing on restricted information, and hopefully wouldn't be that stupid.

    Get official information through official channels. This board is certainly not for organising the obtaining of improper information.
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    With 50,000 men getting killed a week, who's going to miss a pigeon?

    Guns don't kill people, bullets kill people.
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  16. 4th June 2004, 07:20 #41
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    oops
    It is only by contemplation of the incompetent that we can appreciate the difficulties and accomplishments of the competent.
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  17. 4th June 2004, 16:22 #42
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    If you are in a proper RDF unit,instructing you on all aspects of fieldcraft should be carried out as a matter of course. TM201 should be instructed as often as weapons training or foot drill.
    The annex that deals with what goes where however should be instructed every time there is a tactical exercise or training imminent. If you have not done this lecture at least once a year,you should transfer. Active units should have the latest update. PDF units that have rotated to Timor, Eritrea or Liberia have returned with modifications to the pattern,and these should be followed where possible.
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  18. 6th June 2004, 07:16 #43
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    Personally I feel it would help if TM201 was made available to privates, if they want it.

    not even the book itself but on CD.

    Remember in school, you always had the text book beside you for your own reference and you still always took notes.

    It would help even at home recapping lessons and knowing the proper precedures.

    Tell me if a asked my NCO for a copy of TM201 would I get a copy, be laughed out of it or both?
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  19. 6th June 2004, 07:26 #44
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    I never realised the contents of a soldiers smock was so classified.
    To close with and kill the enemy in all weather conditions, night and day and over any terrain
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  20. 6th June 2004, 07:32 #45
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    Because Privates are of low intelligence,it is better that they be spoon fed all information. Providing them with a textbook to study could lead to information overload and confusion.


    Fact is TM201 is in short enough supply to NCOs that it would be risky giving it out to privates too. It is also a restricted Publication and rarely if ever should leave the environs of a Barracks.

    That is why you take notes.
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  21. 6th June 2004, 08:21 #46
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    ME LOSE BRAIN OHH OOH

    me low intelligence, no no no you are very wronger.
    Me smart, me prov it

    !!!ME MAKE FIRE!!!

    SEE It beside me and big kakulator with big tv glass that I can see what me rites.

    OHH OOO! Fire get big, ME no I make fire go away, Me hit it with these wood sticks.

    BAD this is the biggerest fire me everest sawed.

    OWWW arm all burney and hot now , Me know me bite it off

    OWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!
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  22. 6th June 2004, 08:34 #47
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  23. 6th June 2004, 08:42 #48
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    IT OK ME ONLY LOSES MINES FRONTIST ARM
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  24. 6th June 2004, 22:58 #49
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    I never realised the contents of a soldiers smock was so classified.
    The contents of a smock isn't classified, the manual & annex you asked for is. If you've trouble understanding why the dissemination of classified information is frowned upon then you don't belong here & certainly don't belong in the DF.

    I'd also suggest you try directing any further dissent on the issue to Josh & see where that gets you.

    me low intelligence, no no no you are very wronger.
    When are you getting commissioned?
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    Okay I've got a list together for what I have in my smock when I go out on the ground:

    Bottom Left Pocket
    - Burnshields
    - Pocket First Aid
    - Exam Gloves
    - Crepe Bandage

    Bottom Right Pocket
    - Fingerless Gloves
    - Soldier 95 Gloves
    - Bush Hat
    - MultiTool

    Top Left Pocket
    - Scrim net
    - Right Angle Torch
    - Painkillers
    - Spoon
    - Shemagh

    Top Right Pocket
    - MagLite
    - Mozzie Net
    - Tissues
    - Camo Stick
    - Whistle
    - Weapon Camo Set and Monocular
    - Mirror Wrapped In A Cloth
    - Sweeties

    Left Arm Pocket
    - Waterproof Pen
    - Water Soluble Pen
    - Normal Pen
    - Elastic Bands
    - Chinograph Pencil
    - Flint and Striker
    - Fishing Kit
    - Pencil Sharpener
    - Zippo Lighter

    First Aid Pocket
    - Field Dressing
    - Exam Gloves

    Inside Pocket
    - Map
    - Compass
    - TacAid (When I'm a Corporal)
    Last edited by Bam Bam; 25th November 2004 at 09:36.
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