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  • #46
    Originally posted by carrington View Post
    Did the article explain why aircraft with those features would be required? Is the mission the same - no change over the past 30+ years? Do the Cessnas need to be replaced at all?
    You don't exactly need a PhD to work it out. They are old, have a high number of hours on them and there a more modern aircraft would be safer.

    - Turbo-prop engines are faster and cheaper to maintain
    - Bigger cabin - more troops / cargo
    - Modern Avonics - the aircraft is more capable (eg flying at night)
    - Able to carry special equipment - again more capable aircraft (wider number of roles)
    - Better value for money
    - Able to operate from remote locations with short runways

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    • #47
      Perhaps interesting topic??

      Over the last few weeks and months I have been reading and watching reports of the interception of Russian aircraft by British/US aircraft. These aircraft are reportedly spying on training missions etc.

      Is the privacy of Irish training missions important to conceal?? Who knows if/are we been watched by other military forces as we train?? Do other forces care?.......do we need interceptor jets???

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      • #48
        Did anyone else read Ken Foxe in the Irish Mail on sunday? It seems Aero Vodochody offered us a few Jets....


        Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Goldie fish View Post
          Did anyone else read Ken Foxe in the Irish Mail on sunday? It seems Aero Vodochody offered us a few Jets....
          It won't happen. Staunton will never agree to throw the Czech game for a few stinking jet trainers.

          "When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love."


          Marcus Aurelius Roman Emperor (161 to 180 A.D.)

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          • #50
            Is this the same offer of L39s, at 1m$ each, that was rumoured around the time of the last Air Spectacular in Casement?

            IAS

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            • #51
              Again, that happened 5-10 years ago.

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              • #52
                No mention was made of Jet trainers...


                Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                • #53
                  I assume these are the Aero L-159's.... there are quite a number just sitting around hangers since the Czech air force scaled back.

                  A step up from the PC-9's certainly. But worth it?

                  Edit: I remember someone mentioning an anecdote, possibly on this board, it was a discussion he had with a member of the Air Corps - essentially, the thrust of it was that compared to the fuel costs of the Fouga Magister, a BAe Hawk fuel costs would be astronomical, even leaving aside other routine maintenance....

                  I'm guessing it would be a similar story for the 159..
                  Last edited by pym; 27 August 2007, 14:20.

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                  • #54
                    Read Foxes article..support by Mr, Power.

                    Seems like Foxe is on a monthly bonus for writing these articles..a few months he was preaching about death from the skies and the ability of the PC 9 to mount weapons...then there was the Navy's secret weapons tests..now its jets...

                    Any guesses on next months feature?
                    Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by hptmurphy View Post
                      Any guesses on next months feature?
                      Abbeyshrule.
                      Meh.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by yooklid View Post
                        Abbeyshrule.

                        SHH!


                        Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Goldie fish View Post
                          Did anyone else read Ken Foxe in the Irish Mail on sunday? It seems Aero Vodochody offered us a few Jets....

                          They had a guy at one of the Salthill Airshow press releases a few years ago saying that they wanted to produce Aircaft in Ireland and offer them to the IAC, I was present at that. The Czech jet didnt turn up though for the show.

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                          • #58
                            They were L-39ZA models that were for an unpaid order if I remember correctly. The L-159 would be a step in the right direction and there are plenty of as new aircraft available. Lets face it though folks, they would only be a step. We have no military radar network and a limited civilian primary network available so if the Russians want to get close they can and we wont see them...unless they're squalking their transponders!!!

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                            • #59
                              How long before Baldonnell becomes a commerical Airport.
                              Will it ever happen?

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                              • #60
                                Reply to "when will Baldonnel become a civilian airport"

                                To be honest it wont ever happen for long time if it ever does. The many rumours that circulaleted from 1999 onwards that the Don would be destined for use by low fair airlines or cargo aviation handlers because of the huge build of industrial units around the Air Base is ill founded.

                                Dublin Airport the primary gateway into our state is being developed currently that will have the capactiy to handle 50million passenger and also facitlies our in hand to cater for further cargo handling though increased new taxi ways, more aircraft stands and other ancilliares facilities available it is also the same for airlines with low fare type or charter or trans nationals having access this similiar new facilities.

                                With the expansion of Dublin Airport campus with with T2 coming online in spring 2010 along with Pier D this autumn and the extension of the existing terminal one it will allow passenger and airlines experience utiliseing Dublin to be a vast improvment and elimanate the need for second Airport in Dublin. Especially since the plans/project is just about to commence for the second terminal and possibility of third terminal around 2015 if current pax figures contiue at the future projected rate.

                                Baldonnel is only military secured aerodrome that is manned and guarded all year round and such provides a very important part of the DF and the capability it can provide currently or in full operational use as a Military Air Base.

                                BMax.
                                British officer: You're seven minutes late, Mr. Collins.
                                Michael Collins: You've kept us waiting 700 years. You can have your seven minutes.

                                [As the British flag comes down]

                                Michael Collins: So that's what all the bother was about.

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