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"Let us be clear about three facts. First, all battles and all wars are won in the end by the infantryman. Secondly, the infantryman always bears the brunt. His casualties are heavier, he suffers greater extremes of discomfort and fatigue than the other arms. Thirdly, the art of the infantryman is less stereotyped and far harder to acquire in modern war than that of any other arm." ------- Field Marshall Wavell, April 1945.
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"No, they're trying to fly the tank"
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Picked one of these up just before Christmas and have been using extensively over last month or so. Lots of walking the dog and a bit of pre-lockdown hill work in all the cold, windy wet and sometimes wet weather we've had over the period.
Have to say I've found it an excellent piece of kit. Well worth the €50-60 it might cost online. No shortage of 2nd hand or surplus available for some reason. Definitely a budget Buffalo Smock at a fraction of the price.
I used it in a variety of different ways; with a wicking base-layer underneath, with a cotton t-shirt underneath, with norgie style micro fleece underneath and with a hard-shell over it.
The Positives:
Decent wind-proofing
Warm down to 5 degrees C outside
Bearable between 5 and 0 degrees outside when active
Pit zips (Buffalo sorely misses these) and easy side ventilation
Good size pouch pocket at front
Excellent collar with built in shower proof hood
The Negatives:
Build quality not as bombproof as buffalo.
Fleece inner sticks a little putting on but good when worn
Sleeve length a fraction short
Overall, a reasonably priced, solid bit of kit suitable for Irish autumn, winter, spring weather if you don't want to be putting on / off layers as wind, cold and showers constantly change. Would definitely have a place in a rucksack for PDF or AR. Just don't expect Buffalo levels of performance for near / below 0 degrees or really heavy rain.
Attached FilesLast edited by X-RayOne; 12 January 2021, 15:37.An army is power. Its entire purpose is to coerce others. This power can not be used carelessly or recklessly. This power can do great harm. We have seen more suffering than any man should ever see, and if there is going to be an end to it, it must be an end that justifies the cost. Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain
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I got one off a board member and haven’t regretted it once. Apart from that time it nearly stripped me topless in a shop in Germany. The fleece stuck to whatever I was wearing below (cotton T-shirt probably) and just came with the jacket.I knew a simple soldier boy.....
Who grinned at life in empty joy,
Slept soundly through the lonesome dark,
And whistled early with the lark.
In winter trenches, cowed and glum,
With crumps and lice and lack of rum,
He put a bullet through his brain.
And no one spoke of him again.
You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
Who cheer when soldier lads march by,
Sneak home and pray you'll never know
The hell where youth and laughter go.
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Nope. Microfleece instead. I bought one a few years back after freezing my nuts off DS'ing a night time RECCE patrol in November.I was too active to wear a Snugpak under my smock (I would have died from overheating) but not as active as the students(a lot of standing back observing while they CTR'd) so was frozen when halted.
PCS Thermal smock is my go to now for such tasks. My snugpak is only for when static. PCS TS packs very small into it's own chest pocket and is very light to carry in a daysack.
I have to agree though.A nause to put on over a long sleeve base layer."Let us be clear about three facts. First, all battles and all wars are won in the end by the infantryman. Secondly, the infantryman always bears the brunt. His casualties are heavier, he suffers greater extremes of discomfort and fatigue than the other arms. Thirdly, the art of the infantryman is less stereotyped and far harder to acquire in modern war than that of any other arm." ------- Field Marshall Wavell, April 1945.
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Originally posted by DeV View PostIs the inside like a Buffalo?
Aren’t they designed to be worn directly against the skin?
Buffalo is supposed to be worn next to skin, perfect if is all you are wearing for a long period. But doesn't really go well with military applications where there are lots of highly active periods and changes to static, different dress states, etc.
I used a Buffalo as my go to insulation layer when I was in DF but never next to skin for the reasons above.An army is power. Its entire purpose is to coerce others. This power can not be used carelessly or recklessly. This power can do great harm. We have seen more suffering than any man should ever see, and if there is going to be an end to it, it must be an end that justifies the cost. Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain
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Anyone got one of these?
The Stowaway has been around for a long time, but we feel it deserves a little reintroduction. It was designed to be as light weight as possible with a very minimalistic design. The shirt snugly fits into a little pouch located at the back of the neck and is secured with a drawstring & toggle. This can be removed i
They aren’t issue but available in Irish Pattern
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Originally posted by DeV View PostAnyone got one of these?
The Stowaway has been around for a long time, but we feel it deserves a little reintroduction. It was designed to be as light weight as possible with a very minimalistic design. The shirt snugly fits into a little pouch located at the back of the neck and is secured with a drawstring & toggle. This can be removed i
They aren’t issue but available in Irish Pattern
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Originally posted by DeV View PostAnyone got one of these?
The Stowaway has been around for a long time, but we feel it deserves a little reintroduction. It was designed to be as light weight as possible with a very minimalistic design. The shirt snugly fits into a little pouch located at the back of the neck and is secured with a drawstring & toggle. This can be removed i
They aren’t issue but available in Irish PatternWhat are you cackling at, fatty? Too much pie, that's your problem.
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Have one for the last few years. Highly recommended. It won't keep you fully dry in an absolute downpour (absolute worst day in the mountains weather), but it'll keep you as dry as a jacket that fits in your front pocket can. Worn under a soaked smock, it'll provide a water resistant layer that'll keep you in the game. It's good enough to wear over a snugpak to have as part of a slimmed down OP kit to keep you alive in the most common exercise wearher situations. Look up Military Kit Reviews on Instagram for a discount code on the A192.Last edited by Captain Edmund Blackadder; 29 January 2021, 23:42.Aut viam inveniam aut faciam.
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Nah. If you are going to go private purchase go the whole hog.
A310 RAINSHIELD COAT A310 RAINSHIELD COAT A lightweight, packable waterproof coat. This product encompasses the technology of our waterproof smocks and the lightweight properties of the Stowaway shirt, resulting in a low-profile waterproof solution. SKU: A310
Available from them in Irish DPM and forms part of the new Sniper kit.(Us RECCE Heads NEVER get cold and wet in an OP)"Let us be clear about three facts. First, all battles and all wars are won in the end by the infantryman. Secondly, the infantryman always bears the brunt. His casualties are heavier, he suffers greater extremes of discomfort and fatigue than the other arms. Thirdly, the art of the infantryman is less stereotyped and far harder to acquire in modern war than that of any other arm." ------- Field Marshall Wavell, April 1945.
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Originally posted by apod View PostNah. If you are going to go private purchase go the whole hog.
A310 RAINSHIELD COAT A310 RAINSHIELD COAT A lightweight, packable waterproof coat. This product encompasses the technology of our waterproof smocks and the lightweight properties of the Stowaway shirt, resulting in a low-profile waterproof solution. SKU: A310
Available from them in Irish DPM and forms part of the new Sniper kit.(Us RECCE Heads NEVER get cold and wet in an OP)What are you cackling at, fatty? Too much pie, that's your problem.
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Make sure that you are not being charged UK VAT at the point of sale as you will be charged Irish VAT when your Item is delivered. You are not required to pay both.
The UK retailers should leave out VAT for deliveries outside the UK but may not have got around to recoding their websites yet. I would ring them and point it out if they charge you VAT.
Customs fees will only apply if the value of the goods is in excess of €150 euros. This means that it might be worth splitting orders if the customs would be more than the additional postage fee.
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