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Yesterdays rain flushed much of it into the harbour too. For a while there was a nice flood sitting in the middle of the slag.
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Many of these occur in general industrial sites, mostly as solids, but become problematic when breathed or ingested.Originally posted by Test Pilot View Post
Note "Chromium total" refers to all types of Chromium, not just Chromium 6 which is the particular concern here.
There are a few limits, (a) guideline (b) maximum instantaneous and (c) maximum over time. I'll see if I can dig them out, but in the meantime http://www.weitzlux.com/chromium_702.htmlNever doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has. Margaret MeadComment
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Airborne chemicals ‘a bigger worry’ than contaminated water
By Dan Buckley
THE owner of a company that specialises in water treatment said yesterday she would be more concerned about airborne chemicals around Cobh than water contaminated by the toxic dump in Haulbowline.
Residents near the dump have taken water samples for analysis amid rising health fears.
Several samples of sea water were taken from Cork harbour on Saturday close to the polluted East Tip area after the dump site at the edge of the former Irish Steel plant was breached and flooded by storm waters.
“Whatever metals in
the slag-heap may have leached into the harbour would have been greatly diluted,” said Eileen Holland who, along with her husband, Bill, runs Acorn Water, a water treatment company based in Bandon, Co Cork.
“The action of the tide, with the sea going in and out, would have seen to this,” said Ms Holland.
“A lot of it would simply have gone out to sea.”
The Hollands, who are both originally from Cobh, established Acorn Water in 1991.
It is now a leading company in the water treatment and environmental analysis industry with clients as far away as Asia.
“A far bigger concern I would have comes from the pattern of wind flow around the island. Apart from Irish Steel, there have been a lot of other polluters in the area, like NET at Marino Point. I knew people in Irish Steel who worked on the factory floor and lived to a great age. My mother still lives in Cobh and she was 92 last week.
“Yet, at the same time, there were young people dying of cancer in Cobh, most of them living on high ground and not in the valleys. There is one particular road on high ground in Cobh where 10 years ago every single house had someone dying of cancer.”
Ms Holland also recalled the smell of ammonia from the NET plant on occasions. “It would take your breath away.”
She said a particular concern she has had over the years is the mix of airborne chemicals and the effect that this has had on human and animal health in the area.
“I would be less alarmed about contaminants in the water than most people living in Cobh.
“But there are other far more serious issues with airborne chemicals, which the Environmental Protection Agency should address.”
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I see that a partial solution has been pioneered in Poland for the treatment of slag heaps from disused smelters. It involves the leveling of the sites, spreading biosolids from sewage plants and adding lime which encourages the growth of various types of grass and other vegetation.
This apparently prevents the dust becoming airborne and reduces the flow off to rivers. Would this be suitable for Haulbowline, instead of taking the slag heaps to someone elses door step?Comment
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When "experts" start telling you not to worry, it's time to start worrying.Originally posted by ZULU View PostWhen your this good!
We've already dismissed the "bury the problem" solution. Although, while hardly innovative, it does provide a use for unwanted sh!t as well as hiding the slag heaps.Originally posted by Test Pilot View PostLast edited by Groundhog; 10 July 2008, 18:41.sigpic
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Absolutely no idea. Dealing with toxic chemicals is way above my pay grade.Originally posted by Test Pilot View Post
However common sense dictates that they will, if left lying about, make their way into the human food chain and that burial is not an option.sigpic
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I saw from a letter today in the Examiner that some 'bint' is blaming the Navy for some of the dumping.
Could somebody please call in a NGS on the adress given on the letterCovid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safeComment
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Treatment and / or burial are the appropriate current means of disposal.
Depending on the levels of contamination present, the material could be treated to reduce the level of contamination present. This then leads to the question of what to do with the bulk of the material that has no economic value, but is still too toxic for use as general fill material and the usual answer is to put it in proper landfill sites that are lined, top and bottom so they don't have water ingressing and contamination leaching out.
While being in a harbour site means the shear volume of water will have a diluting effect, tidal, wave and wind action means the material is being spread in an uncontrolled manner.
Immediate action should be to stabalise the site, followed by remediation.
No, the farmers want that as fertiliser.Originally posted by Groundhog View PostNever doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has. Margaret MeadComment
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Originally posted by hptmurphy View PostThe NS must have been dumping their Depleted Uranium there again.10 July 2008
Question of priorities
THE announcement that Defence Minister Willie O’Dea is to spend €100 million upgrading military hardware in the Defence Forces will no doubt be welcomed in some quarters.
Others would feel the money could be better spent in contributing to the clean-up costs involved in removing the half a million tonnes of hazardous waste alongside naval headquarters at Haulbowline — particularly in light of the fact that some of the waste dumped there came from the navy itself.
Derry Chambers
Cork Environmental Alliance
Cill na Martra
Macroom
Co Cork
Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.Comment
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How do they come up with this stuff. It should be obvious that those working on the Naval base are equally affected by this.Comment
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The last ships in the basin decomissioed wqere stripped of all re useable fittings and sold to a breakers in spain.
Worst# case scenario was waste oil and lagging and this was removed by certified contractors who were obliged under contract to move it off site
This woman is talking pure shite.Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safeComment
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Burial to most people means cover the problem with soil and hope it goes away. The Wicklow solution in other words.Originally posted by Victor View Post
Biosolids from sewage plants.Originally posted by Victor View Post
Translation- Human Sh1t. Don't think farmers are allowed use that as fertiliser. Not in Ireland anyway.
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You digest it properly using bacteria.
Thats what things like this are for. http://maps.google.com/maps?t=h&hl=e...,0.010943&z=17
They take sewerage in and sell clean water and fertiliser out and err, dump the rest (properly).Last edited by Victor; 11 July 2008, 01:47.Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has. Margaret MeadComment
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