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    OPV Replacement















    In case you missed it in FAQ. This is what the navy are referring to as P61(though it looks more like an A/P 61 to me)

    Main characteristics ship platform:
    Length, overall 121.00 m
    Length, DWL 109.00 m
    Beam 17.00 m
    Draught 4.40 m
    Displacement 3,900 t
    Range 8,000 nm
    Endurance 30 days

    Propulsion:
    2 high-speed diesel engines 5,200 kW each
    2 shafts fitted with controllable pitch propellers
    Max. speed > 22 kn

    Crew:
    Total 150 + 10

    Helicopter:
    optional

    The MEKO® 200 MRV is designed according to the same rules and principles as applied to the MEKO® 100 OPV. lt has been designed as a long range, high endurance cutter with the enhanced flexibility to operate as a true Multi-Role Vessel "MRV" with additional mission capabilities. As a larger vessel, the MEKO® 200 MRV obviously outperforms the MEKO® 100 OPV having more space for more equipment and personnel.

    Furthermore its has:

    -Superior seakeeping characteristics
    -a significantly longer range and endurance of above 8000 nm run 30 days
    -higher availability for longer operations on the high seas
    -larger boarding party capacities due to:
    -Two 30 knots / eight person RIBs
    -An additional nine meter 25 knot long range inspection/ rescue boat equipped with the appropriate communication systems, which can be launched and hoisted up to SS5
    -On deck space and stowage for oceanographic/ hydrographic/ environmental equipment containers
    -on deck stowage of wheeled equipment with the following advantages:
    -all equipment can remain fully fuelled and ammunitioned ready for immediate action upon arrival
    -less fire and explosion hazards below deck
    -no necessity for explosion proof ventilation in covered cargo decks
    -vehicle weapons can be deployed as additional defence guns
    -On deck stowage and operation of:
    -Remote controlled minesweeper/ minelaying equipment
    -UAVs and UUVs
    -Accurate dynamic positioning without heading (two CPPs, bow thruster, two independently controllable rudders)
    -Heavy lifting 20-tonne gear/18 meter reach crane
    -Larger training facilities for up to 150 cadets with large briefing and lecture rooms,Practical demonstration of shipboard gear for trainees
    -On-board medical training in the ship's hospital

    Multi-Role missions for the MEKO® 200 MRV can be classed into the following tasks with overlapping and interfacing components: Peace Keeping and Sealift, Disaster Relief and Evacuation.

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    Looks like it would be a big advantage for oversea's deployments
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    Goldie,

    How firm is this and what's the timeframe for contract and delivery. I'm a firm supporter considering all the the various alternatives to meet a critical requirement. Get this capability at sea ASAP! Next is airlift.

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    In a word WOW!!

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    This is the proposal that the Naval service will be presenting to the Dept of Defence and Dept of Finance for approval. Nothing has been signed yet, but Emer will be replaced (as mentioned elsewhere) in 2007.

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    Again, that would improve overseas deployments BIG TIME!!
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    This is the proposal that the Naval service will be presenting to the Dept of Defence and Dept of Finance for approval.
    Goldie, so how does that process generally work?

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    Remember in Oliver Twist when Oliver asked the man for more gruel.

    The man with the ladel is the minister for Finance
    The pot of gruel is the funds the government has to dish out.

    And starring Willie O'Dea as Oliver Twist

    "Please Sir, can I have some more"?

    It is only by contemplation of the incompetent that we can appreciate the difficulties and accomplishments of the competent.

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    Remember in Oliver Twist when Oliver asked the man for more gruel.
    That man would be Bumble, the beadle.


    Bam Bam, Oliver Twist did have a happy ending, he collected his inheritance. Let's just hope then that the Minister for Finance turns out to be like the kindly Mr Brownlow who adopted Oliver. :tri:
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    It would be a nice election boast. Few governments could say the Naval service got three new ships during their term...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldie fish
    It would be a nice election boast. Few governments could say the Naval service got three new ships during their term...
    That's right. Because every Irish citizen weighs defence of the nation very highly when casting their ballots....
    Meh.

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    Michael Smith got plenty of speeches/mileage out of the first 2...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldie fish
    Michael Smith got plenty of speeches/mileage out of the first 2...
    Maybe, but did it do him (or his party) any good?

    Would these be the same 2 that were launched every year for 3 years?
    Meh.

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    Yes.

    Well they were re elected....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldie fish
    Yes.

    Well they were re elected....
    True, but realistically was this a deciding factor?
    Meh.

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    Looks kindof like an enlarged Eithne with the cargo deck in place of the helo deck. Crew of 150? What's the current seagoing manpower of the entire Naval Service?

    Those Danish SF3000s might fit in about right as well as an alternative, they're considered 'Expeditionary Frigates' with both patrol and cargo transport ability.

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    Driver, tracks, troops.... Drive and adjust!!

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    Its nothing like an enlarged Eithne,except to landlubbers. Its a Modification of the Meko 200 Frigate design.(Try to read the post)

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    Where would we tie it up?
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    Is that a landing craft I see?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vice Admiral
    Where would we tie it up?
    Didn't you hear that the West Wall of the basin is now the property of the Naval service?
    Its only 121m long.
    Quote Originally Posted by mugs
    Is that a landing craft I see?
    No,that would be the Bere Island Ferry...



    Attached photo: West wall of the Basin,with Naval service Landing craft in the foreground
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldie fish

    No,that would be the Bere Island Ferry...
    It does bear a striking resembleance though doesnt it
    What are you cackling at, fatty? Too much pie, that's your problem.

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    Yes it is a Landing craft. We used them in Liberia. They were not ours though.

    In the attached photo of the slide that revealed the new vessel(as mentioned in FAQ) a Sikorsky Seahawk/Blackhawk can be clearly seen on the Helideck.

    We don't have these either,and there are no plans to get any.

    So lets just say for now that the vessel that looks like a Landing craft is either The bere Island ferry,or Marine transports own "Spike Island".
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    OK Goldie I know this is getting a little ahead of ourselves but since the Emer is retiring in 2007 and the other P20s are following suit in successive years it would not seem too premature for the INS to have already determined what kind of replacements they would like to see.

    So assuming (fingers-crossed) that the INS is succesful in acquiring the MEKO200 what would be your best guess for replacements for the other two ships? Would it be River Class, Roisin or MEKO100 or some other?

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    Its too far off,and slightly off topic. It is covered elsewhere in this section however.

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    The configuration of the ship shown inline in this thread is different from the one shown of the ship pictured in the presentation.

    The difference seems to be a structure between the stacks; absent in one, present in another. The position of the crane is different as a result.

    More space for cargo on deck? Does that structure house a helicopter control room?

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