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  • Originally posted by pilatus View Post
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    Photo of George Bernard Shaw alongside today. Image credit Defence Forces Twitter account
    Is that an IR camera on top of the bridge?
    'History is a vast early warning system'. Norman Cousins

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    • Originally posted by spider View Post
      Is that an IR camera on top of the bridge?
      May be optronic FCS including IR.

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      • Originally posted by ancientmariner View Post
        May be optronic FCS including IR.
        It is the optical FCS fitted to all ships in the class, although I do notice she has a new Kelvin Hughes Sharpeye X-band radar fitted.

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        • Originally posted by EUFighter View Post
          It is the optical FCS fitted to all ships in the class, although I do notice she has a new Kelvin Hughes Sharpeye X-band radar fitted.
          Kelvin Hughes radars were always a UK choice. This one has a lot of innovation being magnetron and waveguide free. Built in target analysis at operational ranges is said to remove need for transponders for Helicopter tracking. The transceiver is in the rotator housing at mast height . More than one PPI can be used simultaneously at different ranges and mode. Given that it is solid state, let's hope all the bits are from secure sources or have bee adequately tested before integration in the system

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          • zoom! enhance!



            One of the Customs cutters heading downriver.

            Last edited by derfel_ie; 14 October 2018, 16:15.
            Irish Naval Service Photos

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            • Just a random question, but will the P50's midlife work be done in Cobh or somewhere else and how long is it likely to take for each? Though I suppose that depends on how much work is done.

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              • Originally posted by Sparky42 View Post
                Just a random question, but will the P50's midlife work be done in Cobh or somewhere else and how long is it likely to take for each? Though I suppose that depends on how much work is done.
                It goes to tender. Whoever wins the tender gets the work.
                For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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                • Originally posted by na grohmit� View Post
                  It goes to tender. Whoever wins the tender gets the work.
                  Mid-life refit aka half-life refit is a mixed bag of updating and repair subject to survey . Elements of it are done , if required at a drydock to repair or replace hull steel work, followed by a hull paint system. Parts of the work is carried out by the Naval Dockyard at a price per job and some is done by service personnel. Certain equipments may be replaced eg radars and others could be added. The refit is probably NOT done by one entity but currently it can be done entirely in Cobh. A number of outside contractors could do the steel/ pipework work, but will do so at the sole national drydock which is privately owned.
                  The amount of money allocated will determine the quality of the refit . The P50's will be 18 and 19 years old in 2019 and deserve a refit ++.

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                  • P31 got a major refit in 2006. (one of many) Everything not steel was removed. Everything steel was gritblasted down to bare metal and repainted. Most if not all of her internal wiring was replaced. The drydocking was a minor part of the work, and would be done on a regular basis anyway. The current Searider launching arrangement was fitted.
                    Between her launch and this point, most of her Navaids had been modernised. Aircrew accomodation had been repurposed (into a cadets mess, in one instance).
                    On other vessels, the flooring below deck would be replaced as necessary. This is also relatively major work, but has been carried out at Haulbowline. Main armaments have been removed for maintenance. Secondary armaments have been replaced. (on the P20 class, on 3 occasions during their service).
                    For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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                    • I presuming that Shaw has gone in to the Graving Dock, I was driving passed so couldn't check but she's not over at the wharf and one of the 60's is in there.

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                      • Last time I checked there was two of them tied up at the Cruise Liner berth.
                        For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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                        • Originally posted by ancientmariner View Post
                          Mid-life refit aka half-life refit is a mixed bag of updating and repair subject to survey . Elements of it are done , if required at a drydock to repair or replace hull steel work, followed by a hull paint system. Parts of the work is carried out by the Naval Dockyard at a price per job and some is done by service personnel. Certain equipments may be replaced eg radars and others could be added. The refit is probably NOT done by one entity but currently it can be done entirely in Cobh. A number of outside contractors could do the steel/ pipework work, but will do so at the sole national drydock which is privately owned.
                          The amount of money allocated will determine the quality of the refit . The P50's will be 18 and 19 years old in 2019 and deserve a refit ++.
                          Tymor of Aberdeeen have been awarded the contract to carry out whole ship and systems SURVEY for the P50 vessels with a view to recommending works required to extend their operational lives to a specified date, including upgrades where applicable. Who will do the work has yet to be decided. There is an article in NAVY NEWS TODAY.

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                          • Well, that's that then.
                            While they were constrained by the Tidal Range of the Torridge, they did build us six excellent modern vessels, and for a time, had an excellent working relationship with the Irish Naval Service. I understand many were keen to continue this relationship into the P31 replacement. Clearly this will not now be the case.

                            For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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                            • Appledore Yard is to close next year despite a campaign to win new work to keep it open.

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                              • EDINBURGH, Nov 1 (Reuters) – British engineering and defence firm Babcock International said on Thursday it was closing its Appledore shipyard in Devon, a “difficult” decision after orders ran out....


                                I notice reference to the thought that staff could relocate to other Babcock facilities, such as at Devonport. 4 hours by public transport, 2 hours drive, allowing for Dartmoor.
                                To localise the route, its the same as saying those who used to work in Dublin Port can instead now work in Wexford. It will kill the area completely, given the many ancillary industries working around the Dockyard.
                                For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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